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CAMBRA: No, I'm just here to find out if a violation did occur or not, so basically it doesn't <br />matter. <br />KK: In other words, you're consenting to having Mr. Gilman here? Okay. <br />PKO: And Mr. Gilman needs to come up and say what he thinks about it. <br />KK: Can we have your - <br />GILMAN: Regarding this, I would like to sit alongside of him. <br />KK: Okay, let the record show that both people have consented to testify at the same <br />time. <br />KAMELAMELA: At the Board's discretion, opening statements, what I did, I <br />actually gave Mr. Cambra and Mr. Gilman pre- hearing statements, and I'm not <br />sure if that's been <br />PKO: Use the round thing. It's for our recorder, but I don't think it's volumizing you. <br />KAMELAMELA: Oh, okay. Earlier I passed out pre- hearing statements of Mr. Cambra and <br />Mr. Gilman. I'm not sure if they had opportunity to review it, but I'm just going <br />to request that the be limited to the ethical issue <br />PKO: <br />are we ready to begin? <br />Do you need time to read that before we begin, or <br />CAMBRA: I looked through it, and I understand a lot of stuff that is in here. I didn't read it <br />completely. Like I said, I'm just here to find out if a violation occurred, because I <br />feel that I've been affected by it, and you know, maybe if it didn't go a different <br />way, the outcome might have been different. <br />PKO: And Mr. Gilman, do you need time to read that, or are you ready? <br />GILMAN: I read through it, and I understand what's happening over here. I think I'm ready <br />to go. <br />WJ: Just for the record, Mr. Kamelamela, these are the same opening statements that <br />were provided to the Board? <br />KAMELAMELA: Yes. <br />PKO: Ask if they want to give opening statements, Mr. Gilman and Mr. Cambra. <br />KK: Mr. Cambra, do you have any opening statement to make, aside from what <br />0 <br />