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the allegations you are bringing before us —are being brought before us —about <br />campaign work being done in the office and personal business being done in the <br />office? Did you bring up any of those two issues during that first conversation <br />with Mr. Bishop? <br />Hale: I brought up that I was really mad. I said if anything, if you are talking about <br />incompetent, then you better be talking about Gwen and her. I was really upset, <br />because I know my job and if she thought that I couldn't do the job earlier, she <br />could have said something. But I had passed quite a bit of resolutions and did all <br />my homework and my office work. So yes, I was really upset, there is no doubt. I <br />don't know anyone who would not be upset when someone hits you blindsided, <br />and this went on the blog. Yes, I'm angry. <br />Strauss: Could you repeat your question? <br />Dill My question is, at that time, during that specific conversation, in your reaction to <br />finding out about the intentions of Ms. Nae`ole and Gwen, did you make those <br />specific accusations at that first conversation with Mr. Bishop in the morning when <br />he called you? You made that clear, he called you. Did you make accusations of <br />campaign work being done in the office or personal work being done? <br />Hale: No. <br />Chair: Ms. Lum? <br />Lum: I would like to get back to the two questions that we're investigating. Do you have <br />any more —you mentioned the photos that were being taken for some loan or <br />insurance, personal automobile. Are there any other incidences where you'd like <br />to bring up where Ms. Nae`ole utilized her staff to do her personal work in her <br />office? <br />Hale: Well, that's —a lot of days when she leaves the office, a lot of times they are going <br />to go to pick up pills or something from the doctors. <br />Lum: Who is she? <br />Hale: Gwen, excuse me. Then there are times Gwen had to leave the office to go and get <br />Kopa from school, or meet him at the Prince Kuhio, the movie theater. These are <br />times —not even Gwen liked it, because she was —she didn't have a cell phone. <br />Then I thought —I didn't know where she went, actually, until Emily's son called <br />and said he didn't get the ride he expected from school, in Kea`au, to go to the <br />Prince Kuhio. And I said —he said, is Aunty Gwen there? I said no, she already <br />left, waiting for you I guess. I had to guess at all these things. But that went on <br />quite a bit. They leave early. We come to work —I get to work early for two <br />reasons, I think Gwen will verify that too, there is a terrible traffic. In order to get <br />to work on time, we better leave early. But when I'm there, I am working. And I <br />don't leave till late, because I'm working. And I don't go on —and this is one of <br />the things why I am not favored for —I don't like taking errands for anyone. It's <br />