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because of the perception, the public perception, so that we have to be extra careful, especially if <br />we're talking, speaking, or writing about anything that could reflect on our (inaudible). That is <br />the only objection I have to that matter. <br />CHAIR: Mr. Ashida? <br />ASHIDA: Yes, sir. <br />CHAIR: You could add that in, in our explanation of why she was found in violation of <br />that section? <br />ASHIDA: I will. <br />CHAIR: Thank you. Any further discussion on this matter? If not, I'm going to continue <br />with Unfinished Business until eleven o'clock, when we will hear New Business. <br />ASHIDA: Mr. Chairman, perhaps you can thank Mr. Graham <br />CHAIR: - -Oh, I thank all three of you very much for coming in and taking time to <br />participate in this. Thank you very much. <br />L UM.• And I really do hope you pursue that <br />LLOYD ROBERTS: -­I can <br />L UM.• -- (inaudible) zip code- <br />LLOYD-ROBERTS: - -well actually <br />L UM.• - -I thought redlining was out. <br />LLOYD ROBERTS: No, they do, but they can also (inaudible). Is there a way I can get a <br />copy of the hearing, where she <br />ASHIDA: Sure, you want to see my copy? You can have my copy. (Inaudible.) <br />LLOYD ROBERTS: Thank you. <br />CHAIR: Thank you. <br />L UM: Thank you for coming. <br />MALANKA: Thank you. <br />ASHIDA: Mr. Chairman, I think Marilyn really needs to not talk up so much (inaudible). <br />CHAIR: Oh, I've heard Marilyn speak up a lot, and I <br />15 <br />