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MALANKA: If I could interject, and her name escapes me, but the Council person that <br />Brenda Ford replaced, she used to run ads with her photo. And that's how I first- <br />NICHOLSON: -- Virginia? <br />MALANKA: Virginia Isbell, thank you. <br />CHAIR: Mr. Ashida, do you know if that- <br />MALANKA: -- That's how 1 first noticed an ad— <br />CHAIR: - -Well you know, there's a big difference and- <br />YAGONG: That's campaigning, though, right? <br />CHAIR: We have to call her on that. But it's perfectly all right to run your photo with a <br />meeting advertisement if you're paying for it with your campaign spending money. <br />MALANKA: Well, I have no idea how that transpired. But I'm just saying that her <br />photo did appear. <br />CHAIR: Do you know that for a fact? <br />MALANKA: 1 do. <br />CHAIR: <br />MALANKA: Because that's how it caught my attention. <br />CHAIR: But you don't know if she paid for it -- <br />MALANKA: - -I do not -- <br />CHAIR: -- with campaign spending money. <br />YAGONG: As far as the legal precedent, Mr. Joseph, no, I did not have at that time any <br />legal precedent that said that this is right, or that there was a precedent <br />but I did determine from reading what I saw, and it was different situations that didn't <br />quite match up to what we were doing, you know, but I don't exactly <br />ASHIDA: Mr. Chairman, I just spoke with Mr. Armstrong from the Tribune - Herald. It's <br />his recollection that those particular ads were paid for privately by Ms. Isbell through <br />her funding source as— <br />(INAUDIBLE FEMALE) <br />11 <br />