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ASHIDA: - -Yes, so I think that that's his recollection, but what the contents of the ads <br />were, he doesn't know. But 1 wanted to follow up on what Mr. Yagong said and perhaps <br />just cut to the chase, Mr. Chairman, and answer your question regarding what transpired <br />when Mr. Yagong talked to Ms. Jarman. The key thing that Casey was saying, because I <br />remember she called me right after that, was that at present Dominic is not a candidate <br />for anything. And that was sort of like the real turning point of this, that really convinced <br />me at that point, okay, I cannot say conclusively that a violation has occurred or in fact <br />this would have been a violation. And as Casey's opinion or thoughts —and she's a much <br />smarter lawyer than I will ever be— turned out to be very clairvoyant, because that is <br />exactly what the 2007 legislature or state said in terms of running the PSA ads, that you <br />can use your picture. But it's at the point when you file your nomination papers that you <br />are prohibited from running your photo. So that was what my recollection of what Casey <br />told me way back when. And it's true what Mr. Yagong said, because he had indicated to <br />me that it was his intention —I think I might be wrong, but 1 think he said January 1 S` he <br />was going to stop using his picture any way, so— because that would coincide with about <br />the time that he, perhaps the reelection for his Council seat. And it is true what he said <br />about his picture and the flurry and talk that was going on about him running for mayor, <br />because — understand that this was early in the year and it had just come off, election <br />season had just finished, because the second special election or the general election had <br />just happened in November of that year. So, you know, it was sort of like a continuation <br />of that. So based on that, that was really the —if you're asking what did Jarman say —my <br />recollection is, she's not here today, because she knew about it, she was planning to <br />come, but she's ill today, she's at home sick —my recollection is that was significant. <br />That was what she'd expressed to me. <br />CHAIR: You mentioned, where you cited 2007, is that available to us? <br />ASHIDA: 1 think 1 cited it in my most recent communication that was sent to you. <br />CHAIR: Is it in the- <br />LUM: - -It's in that long, that— <br />CHAIR: - -or is it in the section listed under Executive Session? <br />LUM: It's in this— <br />DILL: I think it's Communication 2008 -17. <br />LUM: 17, it's in there someplace. The 2007 legislature, right? <br />DILL: I think it's on page 9. <br />CHAIR: Communication 2008 -17 is privileged and confidential- <br />LUM: -- Communication, attorney- client —oh, okay -- <br />12 <br />