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CHAIR: - -Not necessarily the designing right- <br />SCHOEN: - -Not designing. Responsible for just printing it out. So she believes that her <br />responsibility with respect to issuing a letterhead is purely ministerial and not discretionary. <br />LUM: With regard to what you were just saying, Mr. Jacobson, about how you use this <br />but also it came up that once one person puts on- <br />NICHOLSON: -- others are going to, too- <br />JACOBSON: - -I have a hunch that that's what would happen- <br />LUM: - -they may not use it the same way you do. So our decision —but again we are <br />only looking at how it fits into the code of ethics. <br />JACOBSON: And the difference that I see between the advertising, the advertising goes <br />out to everybody who picks up a newspaper. This just goes to people I'm having business with. <br />This is specific, I mean 1 don't —this is not to the mass public. <br />CHAIR: So if you were to send out your survey of Punalu'u again, you're telling us you <br />wouldn't use that- <br />JACOBSON: - -I probably would do this just so that they knew who they are. But that <br />would only be those people who are filling out the survey, those people who are registered voters <br />who have a mailbox in that area. <br />NICHOLSON: Do you have separate stationery that you use when you are <br />campaigning? <br />JACOBSON: Yeah, it doesn't look anything like this. I don't have any examples. <br />NICHOLSON: That would be a concern of ours. <br />JACOBSON: For instance, I never use the seal on anything to do with campaign stuff. I <br />avoid all use of that. I'm quite aware how odious that is. I would not consider doing it. I would <br />use my title but I don't use the seal. I've earned my title but the seal itself I don't have the right <br />to use that in any campaign stuff at all. I only use —I keep my numbers separate. My campaign <br />gear has my home phone on it and my business stuff has my— although my card does have my <br />home phone on it too but that's just a perk that the people get because I'm foolish enough to put <br />it on there. <br />NICHOLSON: So it seems to me if we are going to make a motion to approve this and I <br />don't have an issue- <br />LUM: - -No it would be to —not to approve it, to find it not in violation— <br />CHAIR: - -Offer an opinion- <br />10 <br />