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LUM: - -right here or whatever that is 64 point type right here. He's not asking us <br />whether we like it or not or whether we think its great graphics or you know those —he's not <br />asking those type of questions. He's asking if it violates the code of ethics. I think some people <br />will look at a picture and think campaigning right here or else that he's selling real estate. <br />Other people will think oh is that who he is, oh I see him down at the market. So there's- <br />JACOBSON: - -I'll say in part that mostly this is —I don't send very many letters to <br />constituents this is not a —I mean I- <br />LUM: - -It's mostly- <br />JACOBSON: - -I never mass mail to constituents. Well I did when I did a survey of <br />Punalu'u. That was the last time I did a mass mailer. Generally, If I do mass mailers that's on <br />my own dime. But this would be —most of my correspondence and there's quite a bit, goes to <br />senators, representatives, the Governor, our federal senators and representatives and their staff, <br />interdepartmental, another councilmember, to the mayor, to public works, most of my <br />correspondence goes that way, to National Association of Counties. In part it's so people can <br />kind of remember who I am because I have a lot of contacts with a lot of people and my own <br />memory with names is very poor, especially for a politician and it's the —I guess in part because <br />my own memory is —I have to have these clues and if I can get a picture in front of me with <br />somebody, but I don't think this is much for campaigning and as far as that letterhead except for <br />the photograph is pretty much what everybody has used Like at the bottom of mine it's a little <br />bit different. I think it says I have the- <br />LUM: -- district six, upper Puna- <br />JACOBSON: - -and it also says something to the fact that this is a nondiscriminatory <br />County. <br />LUM: Equal opportunity provider and employer. Hawai `i County is an equal <br />opportunity provider and employer. <br />JACOBSON: The Mayor has asked us to put that on all the bottom of the things. Now <br />where I put Ka'u- <br />LUM: - -Ka'u and South Kona and Upper Puna- <br />JACOBSON: - -Kona coast and all that. So other people have something else, but it <br />basically goes through the Clerk to see if she has any problems with it and mostly we have our <br />own —it's more or less the same format. <br />LUM: I did ask to check the Clerk if they had any problem with it. <br />SCHOEN: I did speak with Casey Jarman, our County Clerk. She basically said what <br />Councilmember Jacobson has represented, that the clerk's office provides the ink and the paper <br />and each councilmember is responsible for printing out their own letterhead. <br />LUM: And designing and— <br />Z <br />