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NICHOLSON: Everyone can do their own thing? <br />JACOBSON: We are able to establish our own. For instance, mine has my name in <br />Chinese on the back —the one side with the gold seal. Actually, having that seal next to my name <br />is probably the most important promotional item that I have. Of course I am an elected <br />councilmember, so I think it is appropriate having it addressed like that but that's more or less <br />the form that when I went into office people have been using for many years. They don't have <br />the back side of it but —I actually travel a bit and I have to say I'm very happy that it looks like <br />we're going to get direct flights from Mainland China into Hawai `i starting I think today, and I <br />have been promoting that. So that's in part why I have Chinese, my name there. So that people <br />can know who I am and that's a variation which I don't think —I didn't think that that was <br />unethical, so I didn't bring that into —many of the other councilmembers have them in different <br />languages over the years. It's just a photograph, if in the future I wanted to include a <br />photograph on this or on my other stationery. Did I answer your question? <br />NICHOLSON: Yeah, you did. So it just comes out of your regular operating expenses <br />for your own office. <br />JACOBSON: Right, and actually right now I have my own color printer because I <br />always like to have my letterhead in color. The County pays for the ink but I bought the printer <br />itself. I think other councilmen have color printers that are paid for by the County but mine is <br />faster and nicer and I thought I should pay for it. <br />NICHOLSON: I would think that once you do this people —if in fact you do it, that other <br />people would follow suit. <br />JACOBSON: I'm convinced that they probably would. <br />CHAIR: That's one thing that really concerns me is what level and maybe it's our own <br />fault here for past decisions we have made, but where do you draw the line in terms of what level <br />you stop putting your name on it- <br />LUM: --picture. <br />CHAIR: We've got people that workfor the County that obviously have higher <br />aspirations than just working for the County and might see it as an avenue or a tool to market <br />themselves for future positions. Another thing that kind of just off the top, is if I get a letter in the <br />mail from the County the thing that grabs my attention is number one the seal like on your card <br />and the fact that it says in big letters right at the top that this is from the Council and this is from <br />the County and I guess what I'm trying to argue is that I think that might be enough of an <br />attention grabber for personal correspondence and for a business card in that sense. Do you <br />guys have any? <br />LUM: Yeah, the other side of that is the kind of looking you know at our code of ethics <br />too but the —this is it's Hawai `i County Council and he is council, his name is in 48 point type- <br />JACOBSON: - -I'm a councilmember- <br />8 <br />