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YUGAWA: No, she's not. <br />L UM: But the petitioner is Mr. Yugawa. <br />YUGAWA: That's me. Lisa is my employee. <br />LUM.- So she —the call was to Lisa or to you? <br />YUGAWA: No, it was to Lisa. <br />LUM: And Lisa was the one who testified at the hearing. <br />YUGAWA: Yes. <br />L UM.- Okay. <br />CHAIR: Why don't we take this opportunity —we have the capability of playing the tape, <br />right now? Okay, why don't we just play the tape, okay. <br />SECRETARY.- I don't know how loud it's going to sound in here. <br />LUM: Well, we can go over there and hear it. Do we need to come over there? <br />SECRETARY.- Let's see how it sounds. <br />TAPE: Aloha, Lisa, this is Councilmember Emily Naeole. You sound very <br />arrogant and pushy, and 1—you know, I —you know, respect your mana `o, yeah, <br />about the civics center and all you guys need in Kona, yeah, but —and then you <br />said your family live in Kalapana. And you know, tita, I feel like right now it's <br />not a time, you know The mana `o—to me, I rather help people that is suffering, <br />going through hardship of life, health and safety, instead of cranking up a <br />building. I mean, if we can make a cheaper building, I think that would be more <br />appropriate. But I wanted you to share my mana `o to you, and I hope that doesn't <br />bend you out of shape. Bye. <br />CHAIR: Thanks, Mary. <br />LUM: Thankyou. <br />CHAIR: Ms. Naeole, now —is it true that you had requested these public hearings be <br />held regarding the West Hawai `i Civic Center? <br />NAEOLE: I think Donald Ikeda requested the public hearing, and I second, yeah. <br />CHAIR: Okay. <br />LUM: Okay. I have a problem with only the second sentence. I can understand that — <br />no, I don't understand, but I have another question, too. But I have a problem with "you <br />2 <br />