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the County Code of Ethics, and particularly Section 2 -83. That doesn't mean other <br />testimony and other surrounding circumstances can't be considered in our decision, but <br />we need to make it clear that we're strictly adhering to what it says in our County Code <br />of Ethics, which all of us have to follow. Before I continue, Ms. Edwards, did you want to <br />say anything? <br />ED WARDS: I just wanted to kind of listen so I could hear both perspectives before I <br />made a comment, since I signed up later. I just want to express my support for Ms. <br />Naeole, and I just wanted to say that one of the things about her that I absolutely love is <br />her authenticity, the fact that she —first of all, this Ms. Lisa Nahoopii, she felt free enough <br />to be able to come and testify and give her mana `o, and also, Ms. Naeole felt free <br />exercising her first amendment right to share her mana `o. It was actually over the <br />course of a weekend, so she had some time to probably digest what she was —what the <br />testimony was and her impression of things. And just another perspective is just the <br />rawness of Emily and the fact that she —to me, when I heard that message, it was just <br />very genuine, and you could hear her wanting to try to explain the perspective of why she <br />was against the issue that this woman was for. And the whole arrogant, pushy part — <br />sometimes people may come across that way on the other side of council members. I've <br />actually seen other council members, not her, in my capacity as a newspaper reporter — <br />I've seen them be very rude to the public on the floor, in front of the public, and to me, <br />what happened there is not even close to the way that I've seen council members conduct <br />themselves in a public meeting. I actually testified on a rare occasion before the Council <br />when I was a newspaper reporter, and one of the —the council members, who - -if I say <br />which district that person represented, it would identify that person —but actually called <br />me out for even taking a step out of the press box to come and testify and was very harsh <br />and humiliated me on the floor. And actually, as a result of that - -the way the interaction <br />was and how it made me feel such shame for coming and saying something - -it resulted in <br />a complete Council overthrow of this person's position of power. So what I heard this <br />morning is just authentic, and that's the beauty of this person. She is not polished at all, <br />because she is from Opihikao. Yet at the same time, like —she just feels the need to say to <br />this woman, like —kind of like woman -to- woman, I didn't agree with you but I do <br />understand where you're coming from. And to me, I just heard a different recording. <br />And knowing the way that council members have conducted themselves for everyone to <br />see on Channel 52-1 mean, we could definitely have all the council members come <br />before you guys. I mean, if I would have known that I could have filed a petition with you <br />years ago, I would have. So I've seen worse, and I just want you to know that. Thank <br />you. <br />LUM: Thank you. <br />NICHOLSON: Thank you. <br />CHAIR: One thing— thanks for sharing, Ms. Edwards. You mentioned not wanting to <br />discourage people from expressing themselves in the public eye when it comes to issues <br />close to their heart and close to their community, but what concerns me is that if —and I <br />hear your examples of other situations —but we need to focus on this particular situation, <br />regardless of how other people may act. And one thing that I don 't want to do is <br />encourage, or discourage, people from expressing themselves in front of the Council or <br />7 <br />