2008-09-03 Board of Ethics Minutes Regular Session

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in other arenas where they have that right. And it is a fine line that we're walking, because Ms. Naeole also was expressing her opinions on what Ms. Nahoopii had to say. But we have a system set up to allow for people to express themselves, and regarding this case, what concerns me is that Ms. Naeole didn't express her opinions —or maybe she did — during the hearings, and rather took it upon herself to contact Ms. Nahoopii privately after the fact with what I feel is somewhat privileged information, her phone number and whatnot. And correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe Renee —I think those procedures have changed and they no longer require people giving testimony to give out their phone numbers and whatnot. SCHOEN: I believe you're correct, Mr. Chair, in that the procedure now is to just provide the name and where you are from when you will testify before Council. NAEOLE: I just wanted to say something. I didn't get her number from anybody in the clerk —I got it, she sent me an email to my office with her testimony, and on the bottom of the email had her phone number. So I didn't get the phone number from anywhere else. When I went back to work on Monday I was looking through my paperwork and I seen her email, and had the number on the bottom. And that's the only reason why I called, is because the email was on my desk, and she had the mana `o and she had her number on the bottom. L UM: So she sent you a record of her testimony? NAEOLE: Yeah. LUM: She's in your district? NAEOLE: No. L UM: No. NAEOLE: No, but a lot of people from all around the whole island, they send things to all us council members so we can see what their mana `o is, and that's the only reason why I had that number, or I wouldn't have called her if I didn't see that. L UM: Okay, thank you. NAEOLE: So I didn't go digging up something to try to make something. CHAIR: And obviously you know, I have respect for the aloha you have for your people and what you try to do, Ms. Naeole. I can't see any other example of how much heart goes out to your community in trying to do what is right. NAEOLE: Thank you. CHAIR: Oftentimes, when we try to do what is right, we end up- NAEOLE: - -We screw it up.