2009-09-23 Board of Ethics Minutes

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NAEOLE: Not really. UDOVIC: Not really. NAEOLE: And so the thing is, you know, I been in office almost three years. I've done the same thing from day one. So almost three years later, I'm being criticized for things I've done for almost three years. That's alll have to say. I haven't changed. I'm the same when I walked in till today. CHAIR: Well, in our deliberations, my feeling is, like Mr. Udovic pointed out, that council members, politicians, are elected for who they are. I think the expressions that Ms. Naeole had brought forth in the course of public service is basically expressions of who she is. If Ms. Naeole or a counterpart of hers was a Muslim, something of that nature, or environmentalist, dressed a certain way, with a turban or with a however an environmentalist dresses I think they would be expressing who they are to everybody that looks at them. I myself find it hard for us to limit the expression of who we are and why we act the way we do in the course of civil service. One of the problems one of the issues in Section 2- 83(a), subsection (3), as Joyce brought up, is the impartiality. And that I'm having trouble trying to comprehend and wrap my mind around. If nobody else has any questions for Ms. Naeole do you? We have some questions for -- UDOVIC: - -Thank you CHAIR: - -I have some questions for Joyce. Ms. Folena, at the 16 June 2009 County Council meeting FOLENA: - -Um hmm, I'm right here CHAIR: --you had mentioned that you were in the Hilo videoconference room, right FOLENA: -- correct- CHAIR: - -and there were about five other people there with Ms. Naeole FOLENA: - -No, there were more than five. CHAIR: More than five. FOLENA: There was a room full. CHAIR: Okay. Let me ask you this, if you know the answer to it. The people that wanted to give testimony, did they all give testimony? Did any of them not give testimony because of the way the behavior was from Ms. FOLENA: - -I can't answer that question because I didn't ask them all, sir. And I have a point that I'd like to make up to you, or give to you. There was a question of authenticity of our quotes and our summary addendum asked by Mr. Martin, or Reverend Martin. W.