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Mr. Martin, sorry. These quotes are verbatim in chronological order from discs three <br />and four of the DV disc recordings of that meeting, sir. So you can validate them at your <br />will, at your time. <br />CHAIR: All right. <br />FOLENA: Thank you. <br />CHAIR: My question was, I heard something during -- <br />FOLENA: - -Sorry <br />CHAIR: --your presentation, saying that I think we all gave testimony that day in that <br />room, so I just want to see if there was any kind of impediment because of the way <br />Councilwoman Naeole was acting if anybody did not give testimony. <br />FOLENA: I couldn't answer that, because I didn't speak to anyone. So for me to say yes <br />or no would not be a valid answer. <br />CHAIR: Okay. Board members, do you have any other discussions, <br />questions? <br />GENTRY: I guess maybe just a comment, because if whether or not county council <br />members are given an orientation, and have these types of rules, like if they're not <br />trained or if they're not it's at least not brought to their attention, that all persons shall <br />be treated in a courteous, fair, and impartial manner, then it's subjective, you know. <br />What is courteous, fair, and impartial? And that's why I asked my question, to see if they <br />had covered <br />CHAIR: - -Well, I think it's obvious to the petitioner that the petitioners were offended <br />by what was said and what was done <br />FOLENA: -- You're right <br />CHAIR: - -and felt that it was a violation. What gets me is the person sitting next to you <br />might not feel that way, or might feel ten times worse. Just because she's expressing who <br />she is, is really we live in a pluralistic society. Our society is very diverse in belief, and <br />I think you mentioned that in your public statements. <br />FOLENA: I did. <br />CHAIR: So I think one of the requirements of us living in this pluralistic society is to be <br />tolerant, or to at least recognize the fact that there are many people that are different <br />than us, and that's <br />L UM: - -But the other side of that, of course, is that all of us have to try, attempt, and <br />grow to recognize particularly when it's important to be sensitive and try to be nobody <br />19 <br />
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