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can totally be impartial but to be sensitive, and I think people in public office, people <br />who deal with our the public interaction with our government, are perhaps held to a <br />stronger standard of impartiality and held to attempt to be more sensitive to the public, <br />perhaps to put our own feelings down a little bit so that the public can be made <br />comfortable, and to be in an environment where they are comfortable to express their <br />opinions. So that I think that we have to all I think that's why this rather troublesome <br />section (3) remains in our Code. The other items don't necessarily have that, but this <br />item, we've chosen that, that all persons shall be treated this is now talking to all of <br />our County people, that we're supposed to treat all people courteously, fairly, and <br />impartially. It's tough, but we have to work to do that, and sometimes we do it better <br />than other times. And I think that's why people end up in front of the Board of Ethics, <br />because it reaches a point with some people where they feel a line has been crossed, and <br />so they go to the trouble to make a petition. And I think we have to listen to that. <br />FOLENA: Mr. Dill? <br />CHAIR: Yes, ma'am. <br />FOLENA: I think included (b)(S) in the Section 2- 83(b)(5), so I'd like to please have <br />you consider (b) (5) too, using County property or personnel for other than a public <br />activity or purpose. <br />CHAIR: Right, I recognize that, and I reviewed all your documents. <br />FOLENA: Okay. <br />CHAIR: I'm assuming your reference to (b)(S) is that Councilwoman Naeole was using <br />County property for religious activity? <br />FOLENA: Right. That's private. <br />CHAIR: And one of the problems that I have with that as chair is that it goes back to the <br />constitutional issues and arguments and questions, and I think it was more in this case <br />it was more of an expression of who she is and why she votes the way she does and why <br />she does the things she does. I don't think she was technically holding a religious <br />ceremony or ritual, and that's the problem I have with (b) (5). <br />FOLENA: Okay. <br />CHAIR: Let's see how it applies to (a) (3). <br />FOLENA: Okay. <br />CHAIR: Does the Board have any other questions, or are we ready to file for a formal <br />opinion? <br />LCM: One point. Praying over someone is probably a religious ritual. <br />20 <br />