2011-05-04 Windward Transcript HU HONUA

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And so then on the flip side we could see if there is a motion from somebody else to approve the disqualification of Commissioner Ishibashi. So right now we have a motion before us to deny the disqualification of Commissioner Ishibashi, allowing him, he has recused himself. So we have a motion. And is there a second? DOMINGO: Second. KERN: You made the motion. DOMINGO: Did someone make the motion to -? KERN: No, you still have your motion. And I was trying to elaborate on that a little bit and -. DOMINGO: Okay, I’m sorry, I’m sorry. Well, Mr. Chairman, just for clarification , I move to deny the Intervenor’s request for disqualification because their motion is no longer moot -. Mr. Ishibashi had submitted a letter, formal letter, recusing himself from participation. KERN: So as a Commission we basically need to act on this because it is in front of us. Even though it has somewhat been taken care of we need to act on it, either one way, to either deny it or approve it. ONO: Question. KERN: Commissioner Ono. ONO: With the letter from Commissioner Ishibashi, does that mean that -? What overrides the other, I guess, is what I’m looking at. KERN Okay. ONO: The denial or his letter of recusal. KERN: Well, the letter is the letter; and that is what he has chosen to do for himself, to recuse it. ONO: Okay. KERN: Now we still have a motion in our hands from the Intervenors that we have to take action on. So we can either approve that, in which it disqualifies him to the effect of what they have written in their motion, or we can move to deny the disqualification. And basically we’re right back to where we are now, the motion is gone and Commissioner Ishibashi is still recused. But, it’s slightly complicated. But it’s basically -. ONO: Well, I guess I’m assuming here that if Commissioner Ishibashi had written the letter that his request is, overrides this petition. No? It does? KERN: It does not, not to my knowledge, or doesn’t. 12 EXHIBIT C