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and bring to the table. This is the agenda item where we can do it. So I will accept a motion to close file. Ms. Poindexter moved to close file on COMM. 30. Seconded by Mr. Melrose. CHR. SIRACUSA : Does anybody want to start with what their issues are for their district, that they would like to see addressed in the ideal plan? MS. UGALDE: Yes. In regards the written testimony that came in about Volcano Village, including the Golf Course Subdivision; I happen to agree with Mr. Bidleman that the similarities with the Puna area are greater than those going south. I happen to think our district is way too big, geographically. Your original idea of starting up there around or just below the Volcano Golf and Country Club area and putting our area in the Puna district, is my preference. MS. POINDEXTER : I donÓt have anything at this time. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: I donÓt have any particular issues about the district that I represent, but I do have some observations having done some of this mapping stuff. I think it is virtually impossible for us to tell anybody where to start given the way the software works. I can start at any place, and then tell you that I started it in Kona. That really doesnÓt work. I think if there are these accommodations, we will have to talk about them when we start looking at maps. MR. MELROSE : I would agree; and I think Mr. BidlemanÓs comments earlier on are very apropos, just realizing how difficult it is wherever you start t particular problem, but it creates other problems. So, it is true that we are going to split some communities, somewhere in this process. I canÓt imagine us not says, that the issue of starting points to me is less important find that when I do these maps, wherever you start, so be it, but you come back and you adjust them, and you try to find a way to make it. All lines kind of have to move as you go about doing it. And I think, just speaking as a Commissioner from District 2, I realize that Hmkua has to grow as a district, because it hasnÓt grown in population. So it has to pick up another 4,000 votes, and that interface right between District 1 and 2 is a point of expansion for Hmkua. Just as the other point of expansion is really into the Waimea community; so you have two different ways to push and you can do all one, or you can do half of one and half of the other. But ultimately, one side has to move to pick up the additional size for the region. So from District 2 perspective, I look at the Wailuku River as a really important boundary because it kind of defines the nature of old downtown, and keeps the kind of ahupuaÒa mauka/makai of Kaumana, PiÓihonua intact. Some of these plans start to move across that and then you get more and more weight in the Hmkua District and the vote that is in the Hilo District and not in the Hmkua District. So I realize how hard it is, but I think that Wailuku River boundary is one that I think is important from this districtÓs perspective anyway. MR. CARVALHO: Working with that community of interest, I am having the hardest time in my area; mainly because Hmkua is such a huge geographical area, and the only way you can grow is mostly to my side. My side means Waimea. But Waimea usually associates with 14