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Kohala. So, IÓm wrestling with that kind of problem. Waikloa is down more to the hotel side;
<br />and Waikloa, I could move them to North Kona, but---ItÓs difficult, like everybody I think, is
<br />having a very difficult time. Splitting communities; itÓs going
<br />we have got to work on it using the numbers that we have.
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<br />MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA
<br />: Ten years ago, I raised the same concern that Mr. Melrose raised.
<br />From a historical, from a genealogical, cultural side, the Wailuku was the separation on this
<br />island. There are different districts; we have probably five different districts. ItÓs saddens me to
<br />hear when this term Ðcommunity of interest,Ñ nobody seems to be interested in KaÒ. However,
<br />when I looked at the numbers, somebody is going to be interested in KaÒ, because you are going
<br />to go there; or KaÒ is going to go to you. There are 9,000 people that are missing out of KaÒ.
<br />You have got to put, for equality, everybody gets 20,000 people. For me it has always been, not
<br />about community of interest. Because if I was going to take that literally, for me, a community
<br />of interest would be Jo Jo, myself, MakuÒu, Hawaiian Homesteads;
<br />interest. So, itÓs not something that we area prepared to do, but we have a district. I come out of
<br />District 4, and in that District, we will continue to---We have got to grow by a couple of
<br />thousand people, because we are short. So we are going to move somewhere. It may end up
<br />like, for instance we go on one side of the street and the other district is on the other side of the
<br />street; it happens. It happens because the lines are there. I think, this year, the exercise with the
<br />census department, the bureau of census, has been just that. YouÓve got to take a whole census
<br />block. You cannot take half of a census block. When I tried, I got a color that went way off
<br />somewhere else, and thatÓs not where I wanted to go. IÓm quite sure all of you experienced that.
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<br />CHR. SIRACUSA
<br />: Thank God, there is an undo button.
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<br />MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA
<br />: Absolutely. So, as I said in the beginning, and itÓs not because I was
<br />here ten years ago, it is still something where we have got to be--and IÓm just hoping that the
<br />public understands--we've got to take nine holes and fill them each with 20,000 people. It was
<br />easy for me to just click here, and then Puna went from 25,000 down to 20,000, but thatÓs it.
<br />ThatÓs were you were. So I say, we do have our task cut out for us, however, I think the public
<br />hearing will make it. ThatÓs where we have got to explain. Mike mentioned that we are going to
<br />listen, but there has got to be some kind of feedback; and if possible IÓd like to have that
<br />feedback during the public hearing. Not to make decisions, but just to tell them, ÐLook, brother,
<br />I cannot go on this side of the road; itÓs here.Ñ So thatÓs how I look at it, and I think the public
<br />hearing is important because thatÓs when the public has the oppoto make some kind of
<br />impact that will impact where we are going to go in the next ten years, and how the district lines
<br />are drawn. But, ultimately, itÓs our decision, and it will be o
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<br />MR. KAHUI: I think, philosophically, you know, people that live in these old districts, they just
<br />no like move. They like go back to the same voting place. Once
<br />area they begin to question why. But, by that time, itÓs too late. We hope that the public is
<br />engaged; and I agree with Mr. KahawaiolaÒa that we ought to engage with the public so that we
<br />are clear, at least in our minds, about what we are talking about. If we are drawing these new
<br />political lines and geographical lines, then it makes a lot of sense for everybody. So then in the
<br />end, we all go home happy. We feel that weÓve done our job, our duty, to create a new political
<br />boundary; new boundaries for the County, new election boundaries to which our people can be
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