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to select one today, we havenÓt gone through them all, but if you quickly look at the deviations, <br />the deviations will help you quickly make that assessment. <br /> <br />MR. MIDDLESWORTH: Except, there are two conflicting clauses in the Ordinance; one which <br />says, deviation, and one which says you have to take into account growth. I think, from our <br />point of view, growth is the more important consideration. <br /> <br />MR. MELROSE <br />: That, and communities of interest. <br /> <br />MR. KAHUI: I agree with that. <br /> <br />MR. MELROSE <br />: What this shows is that it is very easy, not easy, it is not hard to create a <br />district that is numerically right on it. But I think this is where the Ordinance is going to throw <br />us a curve; if it fails the other test. This is a question we asked of Corporation Counsel before, <br />and he said, ÐWell, letÓs wait and see if itÓs a problem.Ñ But, it is going to be a problem, and we <br />are going to have to make some calls on it. ThatÓs what the Ordinance says, and thatÓs a problem <br />with the Ordinance. <br /> <br />MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA <br />: After Mike brought up the fact about that there may be ambiguity in <br />the Ordinance, and Jeff'; I am trying to think of what I saw in the Ordinance and the new Bill that <br />was written. IÓve been hearing Ðcommunity of interest,Ñ and this community of interest; is it the <br />same as alternate? <br /> <br />MR. MELROSE <br />: I donÓt think itÓs defined in the Ordinance. <br /> <br />MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA <br />: Absolutely, and thatÓs the problem. ThatÓs what IÓm saying. If we <br />are going to use the Ordinance, then we have to stay with the Ordinance and look at it. Instead <br />of using terms such as Ðcommunity of interest,Ñ I think we need to look at Ðcontiguous,Ñ and the <br />language that is there. Once we get maÓa, or used to the terms such as Ðcontiguous,Ñ and I canÓt <br />think of what the other ones are. But, a community of interest could create or throw us a bigger <br />curve than what we are looking at. The language in the Ordinance is quite clear, especially when <br />we are saying we didnÓt know what Ðalternate plansÑ were. I would just want Commissioners to <br />think about contiguous. <br />MR. KAHUI: I agree that if we are going to plan for growth we need to have an idea of what <br />that looks like. For example, in Kona, we know that we have so many permits for housing <br />developments; we know that Hawaiian Homes got 200 homes, 100 already under construction <br />and another 100 planned for the next year. Somehow, if we are going to plan for growth, thereÓs <br />got to be some kind of statistics somewhere, some kind of information that will allow us to make <br />that kind of choice so that we donÓt miss that element of this whole redistricting. So, I donÓt <br />know how we plan for growth except to go and ask for some numbers from the Planning <br />Department about permitting and about how many homes are coming up for construction; even if <br />they were forecasting this some five maybe even the next ten years. We know there is <br />significant growth in Kona. There is a plan for a 2,300 unit affordable housing project for <br />HHFDC; we know that the affordable housing unit up at Hina Lani is for about another 70 or 80 <br />units. So, even though they might not have people there, people <br />25 <br /> <br />
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