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MS. EOFF: But before we can reject them, they would have to come up for MR. MELROSE : Right, certainly. We would have to have a meeting at the end we set on the next agenda item, at that meeting, we would have a chance to review them. And I think we should set our meeting a little after that deadline. MS. EOFF : Then after we see exactly what we receive from a submission, it would be easier to make a form. Because as you said, maybe some of these items don they are already a part of the submitted plan. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: I donÓt think it is up to the submitter to make that decision. I think that is Mike's job to say okay, this meets the criterion or it doesnÓt. Many of these people, even I donÓt feel comfortable saying I met all the criterion. Again, as I pointed out earlier, there is a conflict in the Ordinance and you canÓt say that it meets all of the criteria, because the two are conflicting. MS. EOFF : ThatÓs where you would want to give that justification or that explanation. CHR. SIRACUSA : I felt that itÓs there more as a reminder to people, this is one of the criteria that you have to address, this is another one, and this is a third. And to make sure that for their own clarification of thinking that they donÓt leave anything out; that nothing falls through the cracks. So, basically when they are checking yes or no, they are checking their own opinion, but we are asking them to provide a little explanation. In some cases the way they reply to that might be very telling about their thought processes. So, I thougood to leave that in because it is also part of the educational tool and making sure that what we get is complete and hasnÓt left anything important out. MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA: Madam Chair, a point of clarification; I too, am perplexed about this submittal. Is that now going to be within the CommissionÓs purview to say, if someone checks no say to ÐNo district shall be drawn to unduly favor or penalize a person or political faction.Ñ Yes, itÓs not or no, you can do it. Then you are asking for an explanation. Is that going to be within the purview of the Commission to sit here and look at everybodyÓs submittal? And that is only one question. There is a whole bunch of them here. There is a citation, HawaiÒi County Charter, Section 3-17(g) and I think it would be incumbent on that individual to go see what it is, this is all of it, and did you submit the map according to the p Charter, Section 3-17(g)? MR. MIDDLESWORTH: The fact is, that in the end, we as a Commission have to decide that the plan we agree on, does, or does not meet all of the provisions. And even if it doesnÓt, we still can submit it because among other things, there is no penalty provision in any of these statutes, or in the Charter. So, it is up to us to decide what it is going to be. MS. EOFF: ItÓs also up to us to, where we donÓt meet the criteria, or where we deviate more or less, we just have to explain it. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: Exactly. 29