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MR. UDOVIC : ItÓs not a legal opinion because legally we have to set the date today. I have some ideas, but thatÓs just maybe my idea. MR. MELROSE: Let me follow up just a little bit to see if I can focus that conversation a little bit. The instructions we give to the community need to be clear. We have to set the date; that is one thing we are statutorily required to do today. But to do so without a package of information to give them about what we are trying to get, to me is kind of a worthless exercise. We should provide them some clear advice as to how to do that today; guidelines as to how to do that. If we do that using the existing base, with some advice that suggests that in---We will find that number, and I would like Pat to get us that number. You said 1200; I counted 1400 based on Pat's numbers. I want to know what that number is of the students at HCC and UH. We say that there is some kind of a percentage allocation of those numbers, by district. You can do it by zip codes; you can pull it out by zip codes even. We give a package to the community that says, ÐThink about it in this way.Ñ Then when we get the regular numbers, we are going to look at it again, and communities are going to need to understand that. Then there may be some tweaking of that. I donÓt want to head them off and then change the game on them two months from now when we get the numbers. That is just not right or productive. MR. UDOVIC : I wouldnÓt think it would take that long to get the numbers, quite frankly. But realistically, looking, perhaps at the most 150 people per district, maybe. MR. MELROSE : If you spread them around like that, then perhaps; but I think they are not spread around and that is why the problem came up last time. Whichever district includes Kawili Street to Lanahuli Street, where many students live, then outside of that is where you are going to assume most of that student population happens. CHR. SIRACUSA: Within easy commuting distance from the University. MR. UDOVIC: We may have that information now, IÓm just not certain. MR. MELROSE: Yes, we do have some; we can look at it by zip code, for instance. But it also breaks down the number that are in KeaÒau, and the folks who live in Papaikou. So if we could do a little math about that and provide some instructions to the community, understanding that there still is this glitch? CHR. SIRACUSA: Jeff, you know staff is working on a form that people who are own plans are submitting. It is, to some extent, a guideline. It asks what is being considered. Does the plan consider communities of interest? Does it consider compactness? So, we might discuss that when we get to that part of the agenda and talk about maybe adding some of your thoughts to that form as well. But, itÓs not really part of this agenda item. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: If people are going to use the Esri software to do redistricting, they have to use the numbers that are in the data base. I think we should tell people to go ahead and do it using the numbers in the data base, then if we have to, later on, make minor adjustments; then we will make those minor adjustments when we decide on a planthat we want to present. 9