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of the Hilo District, two seats within the urban area of the Kona District--that may go into South <br />Kona, it will depend--then one in the southern portion, one in the north and one in Hmkua. <br /> <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: Okay, discussion. <br /> <br />MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA <br />: Madam Chair, I have a question of Commissioner Melrose. The <br />urban core you speak of Hilo, and I think I raised that at the last meeting. Is there another kind <br />of core in Hilo, or is Hilo all urban? <br /> <br />MR. MIDDLESWORTH <br />: The problem with that is we donÓt have cities. So, your definition of <br />Hilo might be one thing, and someone elseÓs definition is another. So what would you have in <br />mind as being Hilo? <br /> <br />MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA: IÓve lived there all my life. If I was to use the zip code, Hilo, 96720, <br />everything in 96720 would be Hilo. That is all I know about Hilo. If I went to Papaikou, it was <br />in Hilo. If I went outside to Kona, that wasnÓt Hilo. Are we doing a redistricting based on where <br />people live or---My only reason is that I am hearing two urban d <br />the rest of the districts are rural? <br /> <br />MR. MELROSE <br />: That wasnÓt my intention. <br /> <br />MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA <br />: But I heard Hilo as mentioned two urban district cores. <br /> <br />MR. MELROSE <br />: ThatÓs true, because pieces of Waikea are in agriculture and if you are talking <br />about a state land use district, and the pieces of Panaewa that are in the agricultural district. IÓm <br />just trying to get to the context that north of the Puna boundary, and headed up towards South <br />Hilo, there is really a South Hilo boundary; there are two in South Hilo. There are two districts <br />in South Hilo that go from the Puna boundary, north, could go up to Papaikou, could go to the <br />river; but there are enough votes in there to have two seats. So, thatÓs all IÓm looking for. ItÓs <br />not an urban or a rural call. <br /> <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: So, you are using density. <br /> <br />MR. MELROSE: IÓm using general areas of population density; thatÓs a better term. <br /> <br />MR. KAHAWAIOLAÒA: Thank you for that explanation. <br /> <br />MR. MELROSE: I got you. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: So, we have a motion and a second. <br /> <br />MR. KANUHA: I have a discussion as well about the urban centers of Kona. I wouldnÓt <br />understand what the urban core of Kona would be as well. To say <br />exactly two that will split the urban center of Kona; maybe IÓm not understanding that part of it. <br />If we have to make a motion to say that the maps that we should not include. <br />12 <br /> <br />