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Ms. Poindexter moved to keep Plan _19, <br />work on it as a group during the meeting, <br />and then save it with a new number. Seconded <br />by Mr. Middlesworth and carried by the <br />following vote: <br />Ayes: Commissioners Carvalho, Kahawaiola` a, <br />Kahui, Kanuha, Middlesworth, <br />Poindexter, Ugalde, and Chair Siracusa. <br />Noes: Commissioner Melrose. <br />Absent: None. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: Does anyone want to look at any other maps that were previously submitted? <br />Or does anyone want to work on Plan— 19 a little bit here. <br />MR. MELROSE: Can I have a general conversation with the Commission a bit about what we <br />are doing here now? What we are trying to do is create a series of alternatives that are reasonably <br />viable that we will take to the public hearings. Is that right? <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: Yes. <br />MR. MELROSE: So, it seems to me that there are some principle variances that we might want <br />to put out for the purpose of teasing conversation. <br />MR. UDOVIC: I think when we talk about going to public hearings that the purpose of the public <br />hearing is to get comments from the public; not to take maps to the public for their discussion. I <br />think they are here to provide public input about things. I think they can comment on any one of <br />the 19 maps that have been submitted. You may have decided at some point in time, that you <br />may not want to consider them, but the public has the right to tell you that this is what we are <br />talking about. <br />MR. MELROSE: I understand that, but we will have draft maps on the table for the hearings, so I <br />understand that they can talk about any number of things; but what we are talking about right now <br />are what draft maps do we take out to the public hearings. <br />MR. UDOVIC: I think every map that was submitted should be taken. <br />MR. MELROSE: No, we have actually rejected some. They are welcome to have conversation <br />on them, but what we blow up; and what we put on the wall are the choices that we have made to <br />help focus the conversation. Throwing out 20 different varieties isn't necessarily going to help <br />the public conversation. <br />MR. UDOVIC: I'm just saying that they have the right to comment on any one of them. <br />MR. MELROSE: There is no question about that. The question that I am asking is that what we <br />are expecting to do is to put up maps on the wall, from four to six of them, I don't know how <br />21 <br />