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MR. WARSHAUER: Well those are extreme perspectives you just offered as two choices and <br />something inter - median is more like it. The park isn't strictly in Ka`u it's split between two <br />districts, yeah, take a look and it is. But the park isn't the issue. The park isn't the issue, the <br />park is federal land. Puna is Hilo side, not Ka`u, and as you go closer to Hilo historically at <br />least in the last couple of redistricting episodes that I tracked they would attach part of Hilo to <br />Puna unfortunately a controlling part which isn't too good a deal. But nowadays we don't have <br />to worry as much about that because as you mentioned the population of Puna has grown <br />significantly. And there are sections closer to Hilo that maybe you can do your adjustments <br />both mauai and mauka and that's what some of these other proposals have done. But you <br />know, don't split it up. <br />MR. MELROSE: Don't split what up? <br />MR. WARSHAUER: Volcano. And upper Puna. They belong in Puna district. And I know <br />Hilo and those leaning towards Hilo interest have other ideas in mind, historically, but I don't <br />think that we should carry on that tradition. I'm sure you have the ability to do these <br />adjustments and keep us whole It's a matter of will. You can juggle the numbers. <br />VICE CHR. KANUHA: Thank you Rick for your testimony. Did anybody else have any <br />comments on this testifier. Well that was our last testifier; did anybody else want to testify on, <br />have any inspiration about testifying about where you live, where you think the boundaries <br />should be, any maps that bounce off you guys and said "that's the map I want ". If not, I'm <br />going to call for a motion to adjourn. <br />ADJOURNMENT <br />There being no further business, at 6:26 p.m., <br />Ms. Ugalde moved to adjourn the meeting. <br />Seconded by Mr. Carvalho and carried by <br />the following vote: <br />Ayes: Commissioners Carvalho, Kahawaiola` a, <br />Melrose, Middlesworth, Kanuha, Ugalde <br />Noes: None. <br />Absent: Commissioners Kahui, Poindexter and <br />Chair Siracusa.. <br />VICE CHR. KANUHA: Motion carries. Thank you. <br />5 <br />