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district, has 6,500 people from Hamakua in it, 9,000 from South Hilo and 2,000 from North Hilo. So, it's hardly a Hamaktia district. MR. MELROSE: That's a naming issue, and I mean more and more that's what people keep calling it, and it's inappropriate, and you know there's plenty of people that are going to keep raising that issue, but you're right. I mean I agree with you. We gotta call it a South Hilo or rural South Hilo, North Hilo/Hamakua district. But that's what it is. It's much too simple, it's more of an inflammatory statement. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: We've had so many people that keep saying that Hamakua should have its own district. It's impossible for Hamakua to have a district. I understand that, but the people we had here today were Hamakua people; they weren't north Hilo or South Hilo people. CHR. SIRACUSA: But we did hear them at the Kamana Center. MR. MELROSE: It is a term of use inappropriate, but lots of folks use it. So, pull back a little bit Shyla just to see where the rest of this. This district goes very narrow and thin and then it gets all the way down, the bulk of its population, yeah. We'll deal with it later. But then it gets down across to Keaukaha because I think you actually end up splitting. CHR. SIRACUSA: That bottleneck bothers me because even though everything on the left of there is unpopulated, it still makes it look like the district is not compact. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: Looks like a gerrymander. CHR. SIRACUSA: I know that. But the compactness is something we have to look at. We could move that area elsewhere and not affect that district at all. It's just a question of looks; we have to make pretty. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: One of the issues here is that it splits Keaukaha and Pana`ewa and half of Pana`ewa is in the other - -- CHR. SIRACUSA: And Patrick doesn't want to see that happen; so Pana`ewa is split. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: It goes down Railroad. Oh I see, okay. I thought that was -- MR. MIDDLESWORTH: It takes a big chunk out of it. MR. MELROSE: The numbers here, could you pull down the district? See District 3 is right at the top end of the allowance, so it actually - -- CHR. SIRACUSA: And District 7 is at the bottom. MR. MELROSE: Yeah I know, and then the Kona districts are all like somehow their votes are different. But, yeah, we could in fact move that around a little bit to level out .N