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we have such poor road systems there and so many of the subdivisions don't hook up into each other. MR. MELROSE: So could you focus on that connectivity issue; you talked right around Pahoa. CHR. SIRACUSA: Yeah we would have to zero in really close, but also what this does is puts Kalapana all the way down on the coast in the same community as say Fern Forest, and it's totally very, very different. So, there you don't have roads. If you look, okay you see where it says Leilani Estates, and then look at a little to the left of it you see South Road. There's a whole community back there which is where I live, and we can't get out to any place else in our community unless we go into the district that's purple. MR. MELROSE: Does that mean that there's a block right there above Pahoa town that if it changed you could get access to the road behind Pahoa to get out? You come out right in the middle of Pahoa right? Doesn't Ka`ohe Road come out? CHR. SIRACUSA: Ka`ohe Road comes out right by the High School, but it also can go, you know, there's another way to go around by the dump. And that comes out by Pahoa Village Road, the other end of Pahoa Village Road. And one way or the other we have to get out because otherwise we can't access. But the same thing happens down here if you look at Pahoa / Kalapana Road. You see the little corner of Leilani Estates and Pahoa/Kalapana Road comes right out there and there's people on both sides of it who have no access to the rest of their district. But mainly the thing that's wrong with this is that it ignores the whole Puna Mauka/Puna Makai configuration that most Puna people consider to be what their district is and that pretty much follows the ahupua'a lines and the watershed lines and the whole concept in the Puna Community Development Plan, which I worked on too, so I know what it is. MR. MELROSE: So for the purpose of this conversation, can we keep moving around this one and come back to that fix in the Puna area, or you want to bring that back up as part of a specific solution? CHR. SIRACUSA: I do want to bring it back at one point and ask the Commission to look at my suggestion for Puna. MR. KAHAWAIOLA`A: Madam Chair, I just need this one point of clarification. Ka`ohe Road and South Road are both County roads right? CHR. SIRACUSA: They are county maintained, but they are not county. They are roads in limbo. MR. KAHAWAIOLA`A: Roads in limbo? 42