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MR. KAHUL Madam Chair, this is Bo. We are just curious; what map are you working <br />with? <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: That is Map A. <br />MR. KAHUL Okay, we were just a little bit confused because we know that the support <br />for Plan_B was there. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: Right, and we will get back to Plan—B. <br />MR. KAHUL Alright. Thank you. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: What we were trying to do was see if we could get at least Puna right <br />in both of these plans, and then move on around the rest of the island on both maps and <br />see - -- <br />MR. MELROSE: They will be very different on each map. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: Yes, they will, but every time we have gone around these maps, we <br />have always ended up passing on Puna, or we came to the end of the meeting and we never <br />really did anything on it. So we are trying to play a little catch up here. <br />MR. KAHUL Thank you. <br />MR. MELROSE: So, are there other areas in Plan _A that we want to spend some time on? <br />I heard you say we can clean up the pieces on that as we go along. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: I would like to try and get everything done today. <br />MR. MELROSE: I know; I realize that. <br />MR. MIDDLESWORTH: We can alter A to make the top part of it match B without any <br />difficulty. The problem is getting Puna done to satisfy Rene. And it is easier to do it on <br />this one than it is on the other one. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: And I'm a tough sell. <br />MS. POINDEXTER: And then transferring that piece into Plan—B? <br />MR. MELROSE: Except that this one has the distinction of -- -They are really quite <br />different in how you treat Puna. You still give them two seats; and I think that's a given. <br />But I think the question is what you do with the excess. This one runs it into Hilo, the <br />other one runs it out the other direction. <br />MR. MIDDLESWORTH: Rene is trying to eliminate the excess as much as possible. <br />W <br />