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CHR. SIRACUSA: No. They were part of Royal Gardens, but Royal Gardens is long gone, buried under several lava flows. There was somebody there, but if you recall the news a couple of months ago, they "ain't there no more ". MR. KAHAWAIOLA`A: I agree with you, except that those numbers are still the numbers we have got to use. CHR. SIRACUSA: But we are still within our numbers. Our numbers are still okay here. We have reduced the numbers in-- -where it says Old Kalapana Road, where it diverges from Highway 130; if we can get that into District 4 and still have the numbers. There are five people there to put into District 4. Now, get the narrow strip down there, which is the road, into District 4. District 5 has room to grow, so we can see how we can take it towards either Volcano or Kea`au, or what else we are going to do with it. There's Kea`au; so we can take some of these on the west side of the Kea` au Bypass; there are those numbers, where it says, 45, 22, 75. We can take those out of District 3 and put them into District 5. Let's move up Highway 11 towards Volcano, slowly. MR. MELROSE: But now you have split Kea` au town. CHR. SIRACUSA: Everything on one side of the bypass; the other side of the bypass is all ag. MR. MELROSE: You are not on the bypass yet. You still have the makai side; Milo Street, that is still in District 3. CHR. SIRACUSA: Okay, there's the Bypass, okay. We can handle this right now. Take it all, take that whole area of Kea`au, and put it in District 5. MR. MELROSE: You can take all the way to the shore without having the population change; it's just all ag. It doesn't make any difference; you can do it or not do it. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: You can tell by the color in the blocks whether there are people in them or not. The darker blue means there are people there. CHR. SIRACUSA: Oh, is that how it works? I was wondering about that; about those color variations. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: Shyla, you see that diagonal line; that is the Puna boundary. All of that has to go in. That's close enough. CHR. SIRACUSA: It will just be a question of cleaning it up. District 4 is pretty much maxed out. We can add more to District 5; if we go up Highway 11 and see what is happening there. 27