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LEITHEAD TODD: Yeah, I have to point out that I was looking at the wrong one and so were you, <br />Lani; the revised recommendation is on the yellow paper and in the revised recommendation, we’ve <br />kept the minimum of $10,000 for both major and minor. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Oh, sorry, okay. <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: So that doesn’t need to be amended. The recommendation doesn’t have any <br />change to that. It did take out the gross revenues, and that really for me had more to do with the <br />fact that I just never envisioned that my Department would be that, you know -. To get started, I <br />don’t mind you showing me, you know, that you are a real farmer; but the idea that I’m going to <br />then come in every year and try and determine whether your agricultural sales are equal to or, you <br />know, less than what your revenues from the other stuff, I just thought that was a bookkeeping <br />nightmare, and that I couldn’t envision that my Department would be doing that. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Any other comments of the testifier? <br /> <br />BOWMAN: I have a question. And I apologize – I know I ran out and I, that’s what I forgot to <br />bring. But then, again, the $10,000, you know, I live in Kohala where there is a lot of really small <br />farms, I would like to – and maybe I’m just talking off the top of my head, you know – would like <br />to afford an opportunity for some of our smaller farmers to benefit. Do you think, in your opinion, <br />the $10,000 for major and minor is correct? Because I’m not an agri farmer. <br /> <br />WEIGERT: Well, it sounds like you seem to be kind of skeptical about that amount as well, that <br />you think maybe it’s out of their reach of -. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Of the small farmer. <br /> <br />WEIGERT: Yeah, for an annual income. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Right. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Gross. <br /> <br />WEIGERT: I’m not exactly sure how -. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Gross, okay. <br /> <br />WEIGERT: Gross, right? <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Uh huh. <br /> <br />WEIGERT: I’m not exactly sure how that would be tracked unless that’s going to be a requirement <br />on the initial application, Director? <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: The reason – and I have to kind of guess at why Chris picked $10,000 but – <br />this is not intended to help somebody who’s got a small backyard operation and it’s a very small <br />part of his income; this is really intended to help people who have a substantial portion of their <br />income coming in from farming or ranching or some other agriculturally related activity. Because <br />if you don’t have any kind of threshold, you know, which to a great extent is going to be self- <br />6 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />