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monitored, but at least you can, you know, if you question -. It’s like, you know, somebody having
<br />a couple of tangerine trees in the yard and then, or avocado trees, and then you harvest once a year
<br />and you take it down and you sell it; that’s not a, that’s not a farmer. It’s someone who devotes a
<br />piece of land to growing a crop and expects to earn a significant portion of their income from it.
<br />And especially, if you are going to allow them now to have people come on the property and sell
<br />coffee mugs and sell T-shirts and do farm tourism stuff, if you are not making $10,000 in gross
<br />sales, and we are not even talking net, then I can’t see that as much of an operation, much of a
<br />farming operation at all.
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<br />WEIGERT: So I understood the amount to be fair and it help differentiate the subsistence farmer,
<br />the backyard farmer, from an actual commercial farmer that would open up their farm to have tours
<br />and other activities going on. So there had to be something really clear so that you knew that, you
<br />know, if you are just doing backyard aquaponics or, you know, you just had your ten papaya trees,
<br />that wasn’t just going to cut it, you know. We needed to really be able to identify you as an ag
<br />tourism venue.
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<br />GIFFIN: Lani, did you want to add to that?
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<br />BOWMAN: I just have a question. Is – and I may be throwing a spoke and may not even be
<br />applicable – like, say, somebody had a couple acres or three acres or whatever and had a pick-your-
<br />own, is that considered agricultural tourism or is that even allowed?
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<br />LEITHEAD TODD: That’s not necessarily agricultural tourism; that would be more like having a
<br />fruit stand, which is permitted.
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<br />BOWMAN: Okay. I’m just trying to think of how people can promote their agricultural -.
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<br />LEITHEAD TODD: Well, because if you go through Kona and you see, you know -. You go
<br />down towards Nāpo‘opo‘o, and there is a little stand on the side with leis and nobody is sitting
<br />there. It’s an honor system; you can stop, buy the lei, put the money in. I’ve seen a few other
<br />stands like that with papaya, avocado. And then they put a price on it and they have a little box that
<br />you can throw your money in and it’s an honor system. Those are permissible; those fruit stands are
<br />currently legal under the law. This envisions a little bit more in being able to sell more than just the
<br />fruit, value added products; so you can sell the jam, right, you know, you can sell other things, you
<br />can sell things that aren’t maybe 100 percent grown on the farm, you can sell the T-shirts. Like,
<br />you know, I guess if I came to Kona and I saw some really cool label for coffee that was kind of
<br />funny, I’d want to get the coffee cup to take back because it would be funny to, you know -. I’ve
<br />seen some strange names that the guys, you know, like, put on their labels to attract attention. And
<br />some have very beautiful designs, too. So sometimes, you know, you are interested in getting, not
<br />just the coffee, but getting the other gifts to go along with it. But it’s really about recognizing that
<br />farmers sometimes need to supplement the income on a monthly basis as opposed to waiting for the
<br />crop to come in. And the Legislature did this in response to the requests from farmers. And so we
<br />are just trying to figure out how to do it without it turning into, you know, the Waiki‘i Festival
<br />without a special use permit, you know. That’s basically it. That’s why there has to be some
<br />activity. That’s why there’s limits on whether it comes in buses or single cars and stuff.
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<br />WEIGERT: So what I really like about the amendments is the recognition of the major and minor,
<br />cause I want you to know in ag tourism one size does not fit all. And the fact that the Director has
<br />indicated the type of vehicles and that there needs to be ample parking and that kind of stuff is
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