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WHITTEMORE: Okay, but it seems like it’s kind of cast in stone there in my opinion. Where the <br />access you’ve got to be to be reasonable, otherwise there is another -. I can’t believe that your <br />frontage road will realign to accommodate them; it’s going to stay the way it is. <br /> <br />TAKEMOTO: Oh, yeah, yeah -. <br /> <br />WHITTEMORE: Yeah, okay. <br /> <br />TAKEMOTO: Yeah, it would mean that drivers would have to turn right or left, then -. <br /> <br />WHITTEMORE: Right, okay, I just wanted to understand that that was, yeah. Then just from a <br />general perspective, just so I have an understanding of the frontage road, from the airport to <br />Honokōhau, how many access points off of the frontage road, proposed frontage road, to Queen <br />Ka‘ahumanu are being proposed along the stretch? <br /> <br />TAKEMOTO: From the latest that we’ve heard from DOT, the access to Queen Ka‘ahumanu <br />would be at the airport is one, Ka‘iminani is another, and then Huliko‘a. <br /> <br />WHITTEMORE: Okay, okay, just those three points, okay. That’s all I have. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Thank you. Commissioners, any other questions? Any other, from the applicant? <br /> <br />TAKEMOTO: No, that’s it. <br /> <br />LIM: Thank you very much. We rest our case and ask your support. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Okay, thank you. I would like to see if the testifiers, because their concerns were <br />addressed, if you have any additional testimony or comments for us after the applicant sits down. If <br />Mr. Matsuyama, Mr. Zimpfer – thank you, you may return – Mr. Zimpfer -. Thank you. <br /> <br />ZIMPFER: I would need to go back and speak with our superintendent about the condition they <br />proposed. We would prefer the filtration system, which they are putting along the Queen <br />Ka‘ahumanu Highway that’s being widened. We currently have a draft memorandum of agreement <br />that’s nearly about to be signed, and we worked with the Federal Highways and the Hawai‘i <br />Department of Transportation to come up with this memorandum and come up with mitigation <br />measures, which we felt were appropriate for the new realigned highway. So I would want to see <br />more details on the proposed swale and get an idea of how much of the potential pollutants would <br />be removed. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Staff, do you have any comments? Thank you. <br /> <br />ARAI: I don’t know enough about these best management practices to determine at this point in <br />time what is appropriate and what is not. As language, we are deferring to the Department of Public <br />Works and their engineers to determine the appropriate type of devices to be installed that would <br />address the concerns being expressed by National Park Service; now whether or not those devices <br />have to be similar to what’s being installed by Department of Transportation on Queen Ka‘ahumanu <br />Highway, I have no clue. Unless, maybe Kiran Emler who is here from Department of Public <br />Works, if he could, if he has any information to offer if there is like a standardized type of swale or <br />8 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />