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wood frame. And so our impact is not as great as you might think. There are not a lot of nursing <br />homes built so people don't get the experience of seeing what happens. But 48,000 feet is a big <br />building, but there's a lot of space in there. And in terms of real impact, talking with engineers, when <br />we looked at the traffic impacts overall on this project, initially the traffic studies came back saying no <br />mitigations were required. The belief of the traffic engineers who I think know more than I do about it <br />were that we didn't really need to do anything. Our concern was I drove out some of the driveways too <br />and I had the same feeling that they did. It’s not a safe place to pull out. I’ve pulled out of the <br />driveways there, we had the same feeling about that. A lot of these improvements we offered up as <br />safety measures for the residents and for our residents in the future. But in terms of what the technical <br />guys said, they told us we didn’t need to do it at all; and I disagreed with that, honestly. So we are <br />certainly concerned about the safety and the traffic. But I'm not as concerned with over impacting that <br />during that process, honestly. <br /> <br />FUKE: Commissioner Au -. <br /> <br />AU: Go ahead. <br /> <br />FUKE: The direct answer to your question as far as like completing the infra -, the roadway <br />infrastructure before the project actually gets started, I think it's twofold. One is that when you do the <br />site work of, when you do the intersectional improvements, all of the improvements in red over there <br />as recommended, you are going to have disruption. You know, you're going to have mobilization. So <br />they are going to need to have a staging area. So where is that staging area? The staging area has to be <br />on this property, off of the roadway. So while they are doing the staging area and, like having, I mean <br />while they are making all of those improvements, then it's just a question of having another bulldozer <br />on the property to do a lot of the site work. So, you know, you're doing this concurrently. That’s one <br />reason. So we didn't feel like it would, because there is going to be interruption already to begin with <br />to make all of these improvements, having the site work would not really compound, compound the <br />situation <br /> <br />Secondly is that if you're going to defer the construction of everything until the site work is done, there <br />is a chance that you might further conflict, or complicate, you know, the traffic situation in the area <br />twofold. And that is one of the reasons why we wanted to have, we structured it in a manner where the <br />improvements would be in before the vertical started. Hopefully when the carpenters or other people <br />start coming in, then you have more, you know, traffic coming into that area at certain times, then you <br />would have like the left-turn lane and the sight distance things all kind of fixed up. But primarily was <br />like, we felt like doing the intersectional work and the improvements along Kaumana Drive, you know, <br />will cause disruption, and you need a staging area. And the staging area has got to be the site. <br /> <br />AU: So have, what is, where are you guys at with the Department of Public Works? You know, <br />because we all know they are government. And how long is this going to take? And I kind of <br />understand what’s going on, you want to start it right away. And if you want to start it right away, that <br />road can be done now. So what stage are you guys at with the Department of Public Works? I mean, <br />you must have sent them a preliminary. Did they approve this, are they looking at this? <br /> <br />FUKE: Conceptually they are okay with all of the proposed improvements. So now it is a question of <br />how quickly the engineers can prepare and have the construction plans approved by the County. <br /> 13 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br /> <br /> <br />