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property and it’s your property, can you own an ATV and use it on your property to ride around on <br />it, and we had a case, and it becomes very difficult to regulate that. <br /> <br />PALMA GLENNIE: And I appreciate, again, I appreciate what you are saying. The difference I <br />think is that here we are talking about an ag tourism activity, and I don’t, I mean, is there a place in <br />the ag tourism bill, the new one, that says ATVs are not part of that? I mean, that’s what I’m, I’m <br />saying there is two different things going on here. There is people just owning property and I, like, <br />I don’t have a desire to do ag tourism-related activities on my property, I will follow the law for <br />whatever and have whatever I can do. But if I asked for a permit to do ag tourism activities, isn’t <br />that different, and doesn’t that require different, have different requirements? That’s what I’m <br />saying. I just think that if ATVs are being used for a ride, a recreational ride for commercial <br />reasons, getting money, that’s different than my neighbor, you know, kids running around and <br />having fun. <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: I guess the difficulty for the Department, and this is just, I thought we had <br />discussion, is that when the State says that it is a permitted use on Ag land, it becomes difficult for <br />us to take the position that we have to treat that permitted use significantly differently than other <br />permitted uses. And that’s the difficulty for us is we have a laundry list of things that the State says, <br />solar farms, alternative energy, there is a whole bunch of stuff that the State, every year they go in <br />and amend the law, and then if they say it’s permitted, then how do I treat this permitted use <br />differently than this other permitted use. And it’s a quandary for us because some of these things <br />raise greater issues in terms of the use of the roads, greater issues about impact on neighbors, <br />greater issues about impact on farmers. But I’m going to tell you that we are having some of those <br />same discussions on legitimate agricultural uses, as they start, if sugar were to come back and you <br />had big trucks and dirt and everything, you’d have legitimate agriculture, but you’d have the same <br />discussion about the impact on the community. And that’s where we are having some difficulty in <br />terms of the fact that it’s permitted under State Law. <br /> <br />PALMA GLENNIE: Well, that, and that would be major ag, which is also a different thing than <br />minor ag. I mean, I think the whole, I think it’s obvious from this discussion that even this bill, it’s <br />just not ready for prime time. I mean, I don’t know, I mean, maybe this is a better time to create a <br />bill that has the input from small farmers. I just, again, fear that going, taking this to the County <br />Council, they are going to feel like, “Okay, it’s already been reviewed, there has been public input.” <br />I mean I know this is an important step, and you folks are, your, you know, what you put or don’t <br />put into this bill is going to really mean a lot, and I just have this fear that the residents of the county <br />are going to end up being liable for all these thing that haven’t been able to be resolved. And I <br />don’t want to see my neighbors and I don’t want everyone to be in lawsuits. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Though I appreciate you being here and your comments are truly well taken -. <br /> <br />PALMA GLENNIE: Yeah, that’s fine -. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Thank you very much. <br /> <br />PALMA GLENNIE: Thank you. I really, I really appreciate the time (inaudible). <br /> <br />GIFFIN: You’re welcome. Commissioners, before she goes, did you have any other questions of <br />her? Thank you again. <br />11 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />