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that does not mean that that exists on every farm and every area on this island. Because many of the <br />farmers, our farmers are born and raised here, and they come with a certain level of values with <br />regard to respect, responsibility, and the fact that there isn’t any open communication could be that <br />there are differing values because people maybe come from different places so do not understand <br />what we are talking about. I personally myself own an ag tourism venue; it does not have any of <br />those nuisances that have been shared with today, so I have a very different view of ag tourism. I <br />also work with many ag tourism venues here on this island, and I found that those who had to go <br />after special use permits had to spend anywhere from thirty to forty thousand dollars in getting the <br />engineers and all of the different plans that were required by the special use permit. That in many <br />cases almost took them down just to get the permit. So I am a huge advocate for this bill, because if <br />we can get some of those smaller farmers out of the gate and they can survive so they can continue <br />supporting their habit called farming, I think we should try to really look carefully at this and not <br />just blanket some, “oh, these nuisances are too much for us so we should not continue on.” And I, <br />too, like Nancy, have been following this for years, so, yes, it is an inconvenience for everybody to <br />come out here and say their testimony again year after year, but we will not give up until this goes <br />through because this county is going to set the precedent for all counties throughout the state of <br />Hawai‘i, and by all means we need to get it out of the gate. Thank you. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Thank you. Director? <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: Lani, you are involved in Maui with the lavender industry. <br /> <br />WEIGERT: Yes, that’s correct. <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: Was that through a special use permit or just farm tours? <br /> <br />WEIGERT: Yes, yes, that was a special use permit. And the reason that we decided to go with a <br />special use permit there was because there were other things on the property, such as weddings and <br />special events that were going there, and we wanted to set the example to other agricultural tourism <br />venues that if you are going to go outside of simply bringing people and doing educational tours, <br />selling your value-add, then you need to go this other route. And that’s why I am a real advocate <br />for this particular bill, because I think it should be watched on both sides, meaning when people <br />start to do more and abuse what this is, an organization, such as Hawai‘i Agri Tourism could be a <br />major advocate for the county as well in making sure that people are self-policed, because it is very <br />difficult for the county to have their resources to go out and do this, you know, for the <br />neighborhoods. But I want you to know that it affects ag tourism overall when there is one player <br />that’s not playing nicely. So the organization needs to go out there and police them as well and say, <br />“Hey, knock that off, because you are going to hurt us as an industry.” And this is the position in <br />which we are taking statewide. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Any other questions of the testifier. Thank you. Sir? Brian Lievens? <br /> <br />LIEVENS: Yes. Brian Lievens. I’m president of the West Hawai‘i Fruit Growers Association, <br />also on the board of the Hawai‘i Tropical Fruit Growers for the State. I’m a small farmer here in <br />Kona, and I have some land in Honomū that I’m considering for an agri tourist business, so I’m <br />concerned about the bill, and in our organization as well because we represent so many small <br />farmers. An example of the agri tourism with our organization is every year we have a statewide <br />conference, usually on a different island. This year we are having our statewide conference on all <br />16 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />