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four major islands; we would be touring farms on every single island. And we so far have 100
<br />people signed up from all around the world. Now, I’ve been in other countries and seen agri
<br />tourism as a major industry. And I’ve seen a large agri tourist business, like the Maui Plantation
<br />and, of course, we are all familiar with Napa Valley and what a success that’s been. So I’m very
<br />bullish on the industry, and I find it strange that for instance revenue would be limited relative to,
<br />you know, the sales of actual fruit or whatever you are growing on the thing; it just seems Alice in
<br />Wonderland, Through the Looking Glass type logic. But I think we can, we are working with a
<br />bunch of different problems. I wanted to talk about, oh, Janice’s mention of her neighbor bringing
<br />in busloads of people and what a problem it was; she didn’t mention that the chocolate operation
<br />just up the street from her has done very well, and been very low-key, very successful, and it has
<br />promoted a whole new industry for West Hawai‘i. Some of the other things I wanted to talk about
<br />were addressed by the two speakers ahead of me, so I’ll skip over those. And it really kind of boils
<br />down to a definition, or debate about what really ag is. Okay. Thank you.
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<br />GIFFIN: You’re welcome. Any other comments or questions of the testifier? Did you want to add
<br />something? All right, Lani.
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<br />WEIGERT: I wanted to add that it is really difficult to put a daily limit, too, on it. I understand that
<br />there is a cry out for a limit of some type. And a daily limit is really difficult; I’d rather go with a
<br />weekly, if we even had to do that, I mean, a monthly would be even preferred. But a daily, say, if
<br />you put a daily limit of 30 people, I mean, the farmer has gone through all this to get everything
<br />ready so that they can make sales from their farm and, they are, they are only going to make such a
<br />small percentage on their admission, if they even charge that. Most farmers don’t charge that; they
<br />just want you to come and, you know, buy their produce and their other value-add. And with 30
<br />people, I mean, you are lucky, if you can pay your daughter to come to work. I mean, please really
<br />listen to the economic driver on it, too. I understand there’s concerns with regard to the nuisance.
<br />But really, just like the gentleman next to me said, the chocolate company up the street has done
<br />well and it has been very low-key. I’d have to say that’s probably the majority of the farmers; that’s
<br />what’s their impact’s going to be. So just really listen to this, because there are definitely these
<br />screwballs that come out and they make it bad for everybody, but it doesn’t mean that everybody is
<br />doing it incorrectly. Thank you.
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<br />GIFFIN: Director.
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<br />LEITHEAD TODD: Lani, are you familiar with the vanilla bean operation? Because I was
<br />surprised, because I thought that that was a fairly lucrative product, because I was being told
<br />something like $30,000 per acre. And then yet they came in and got a special use permit so they
<br />could serve meals, because they were saying that their bottom lime, even with the high value
<br />product, like vanilla beans. So I was wondering if you knew a little bit more about them.
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<br />WEIGERT: Yes, I actually work with them. So this is something that’s really important for
<br />everybody to understand that the crop itself yields a very, very small return; when I say small
<br />return, it could be five percent or less. It’s the value-add that they bring in that actually sustains
<br />them and allows them to continue to do this thing that they love called farming. So that’s why
<br />people do ag tourism. It’s strongly driven by their value-add, which in the case of the vanilla farm
<br />they had to create other value-added products, as well as services, for them to survive. So that’s
<br />really critical in this.
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