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<br />Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – June 17, 2013 <br />proposed amendment changes and he was – put it to them – <br />said, hey I raise pigeons. I take my pigeons to Maui! I let my <br />pigeons go in a race and they come back. You’re gonna <br />come give me a ticket? And he was told that you can be <br />ticketed, you know, you’re, when you’re breaking a law, and <br />it was brought up that you could possibly get a special use <br />permit and that would be delegated from the local branch <br />department. So, there’s issues with – cats aren’t gonna be <br />on the injurious list – but pigeons are. So, there’s more <br />issues then that – but I didn’t think we were going to talk <br />specifically on issues in this proposal – I thought maybe <br />there’d be an ad hoc committee reformed to collect the <br />aggregate discussion toward this opposed amendment <br />change and then submit it to the Mayor’s Office for his <br />review and consideration and then, you know, at that time if <br />the Mayor concurs with the recommendations by the GMAC <br />advisement – then his office could then generate an amicus <br />letter to the board whereby providing some standard <br />testimony in opposition to this proposed amendment change <br />being considered by the department relating to this HAR <br />124. [Pause] That’s all I have to say. <br /> <br />Chair Sylvester: OK. Tom [unclear] comment… <br /> <br />T. Lodge: Um, I provided, I think most of you have, what I wrote on <br />some of the areas that I found detrimental in 124 to start <br />with. Ah, Cleon now has other – pigeons [unclear] I’ve heard <br />about pigeons from others, as well, you know, they’re <br />making criminals out of people without any kind of due <br />process, they’re making, you know, they’re making these <br />decisions – I mean – for myself – I almost feel like they <br />should [unclear] all over again, potentially, what I feel they <br />should be doing [unclear]. Cause there are so many bad <br />sections that have been introduced into this 124 – trying to <br />get a permit to move wildlife from one place to another – if <br />you find an injured animal you have to get a permit before <br />you can bring it home – I mean it’s just burdensome. And it <br />doesn’t make sense and they’re doing it without making any <br />comments with the public before they come out with these <br />things to start with. And I think we should shelve the – shelve <br />the whole thing, I mean that’s my opinion, would be to shelve <br />the whole thing – come back and talk to the public and then <br />come back and start over – would be what I suggest but… <br /> <br />Chair Sylvester: I think that probably would be the easiest thing to do then… <br /> <br /> 17 <br /> <br />