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them if they’re using it or not. But if it’s not, I don’t think we should be involved. Secondly, like I stated, to reiterate, I don’t want to go in on top of someone else’s hearing and make a call on top of what they’re doing. I want somebody to appeal that thing and get it off—get rid of it that way, through the proper appeal procedure, because I don’t want to get involved in anything that’s being an appeal procedure. It’s not our kuleana to do that. <br /> <br /> MR. DRUTAR: I definitely understand your position. <br /> <br /> MR. HENRICKS: But as to the question of whether they’re misusing the Ethics Code, I think somewhere along the line maybe we can tell them they are. I don’t know. <br /> <br /> MR. DRUTAR: Yeah, to specifically answer his question, yeah, they cited the Ethics Code. <br /> <br /> MR. ADAMS: I would, if I may make a comment, as an employee—frankly, as an individual, but particularly as an employee, according to the Code you of course can petition the Board of Ethics for an informal hearing, opinion, on a particular situation. That’s why I was trying to draw you down into a particular situation. I think part of where we’re at as a Board, if I’m reading this right, is your situation. The facts that you’ve laid out are not simply selling a home in Waimea and assessing one in Kona. They’re just not simply that. And so given that, I think that part of the conversation that we’re having with you is you kind of stepping back and seeing what is it that you really want, given the situation that you are in, and taking a look at what some of the other options are. One of those options may be looking at what’s available within the Code as well, to have a conversation about the validity of the policy that you feel is in—in your opinion, not in accordance with the Code. <br /> <br /> MR. DRUTAR: Yes, sir. <br /> <br /> MR. ADAMS: That’s kind of what I’m seeing. <br /> <br /> MR. BALSIS: Do you have a comment before we continue here? <br /> <br /> MR. HENRICKS: No, I’m tired. <br /> <br /> MR. BALSIS: Okay. <br /> <br /> MR. HISASHIMA: I have a last one. <br /> <br /> MR. BASLSIS: Okay, go ahead, Glen. <br /> <br /> MR. HISASHIMA: Twenty-five years I worked in the state. To write up an employee, they have to violate a policy. Like Arne’s saying, they wrote you up on an ethics charge. That’s wrong, to me, because what is a policy for? That is the law of your department. You violate the policy, you write specifically section dat, dat, dat, dat dat, not go off and say you violate this ethics rule. And so I believe what Arne said. We can tell them not to use it. As a manager, any