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ISHIBASHI: Yeah, with the applicant. <br /> <br />COTTLE: When you say we, do you mean the Association or the Planning Department? <br /> <br />ISHIBASHI: Not what they had on their own. It’s where they had with us, the Planning <br />Department? <br /> <br />COTTLE: We met with their representative one time back in December of last year. <br /> <br />ISHIBASHI: So most of the meetings took place with this group? <br /> <br />COTTLE: Most of the meetings took place between the applicant and the Road Association. <br /> <br />NITCHE: My understanding is that they, quite a few years ago they got the original special use <br />permit for the shopping center, and then they modified it for a farmers market. And the farmers <br />market didn’t do much for a long time and then all of sudden it developed into a swap meet, and <br />then it has gone very well. So I don’t think they have one for a swap meet. I believe they only <br />have it for a farmers market, the special use permit, if I’m not mistaken. I believe that’s the way it <br />sits. <br /> <br />COTTLE: Mr. Chairman, if I may just clarify for Mr. Nitche the swap meet use. The permit was <br />amended back in 2002. And at that time the Commission approved the addition of a farmers <br />market as a permitted use, as well as any uses that are permitted in the industrial/commercial <br />mixed zoning district. And that zoning district allows a variety of commercial uses. So the swap <br />meet would be permitted as of 2002. When the Commission amended that permit it allowed the <br />swap meet. <br /> <br />ISHIBASHI: Commissioner Moses. <br /> <br />MOSES: Being from Kau I’ve been to the swap meet. I know exactly what you’re talking <br />‘ <br />about. And I think that the concerns that you raised are not unreasonable at all. And I think that <br />it should be presented to the Ocean View LLC that they have responsibility to and for providing <br />signs so that the public knows where to park and then have somebody supervise Saturdays from, I <br />believe it’s, I don’t know from what time to what time it is. According to this it was in the <br />morning to noon, I believe it is. And I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask them to do that on <br />Saturdays. I can’t say for the rest of the week and what happens there, but that would be my <br />suggestion. <br /> <br />NITCHE: And that’s all we’re asking, is that they supervise it. They did provide the lot, but they <br />didn’t provide how it, where it is or how to get to it. It’s hidden. <br /> <br />MOSES: And it has grown considerably. The swap meet has grown considerably. So I do see <br />that and I do see the safety issue; and I think it’s not unreasonable to ask that of them. <br /> <br />7 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br /> <br /> <br />