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<br />Mr. Hermes: Yes, I agree. <br /> <br />Mr. Hisashima: So we do not have anything to say on this. And the only reason I bring <br />this up is because I’ve done it before. If it goes through sanctions and becomes grieveable, <br />hands off. <br /> <br />Mr. Henricks: Yeah, but this is an advisory opinion, we’re not talking about union <br />sanctions. <br /> <br />Mr. Hisashima: Right. Well then again, I ask, you’re from HR right? Who writes the <br />policies for the County? <br /> <br />Mr. Hermes: What subject matter? <br /> <br />Mr. Hisashima: Any matter. Because I heard you folks don’t have policies and <br />procedures. <br /> <br />Mr. Hermes: Sir it’s hard to answer. <br /> <br />Mr. Hisashima: I asked Ms. Crawford dress code, do you have a policy on dress code. <br /> <br />Mr. Hermes: No. <br /> <br />Mr. Hisashima: Do you have a policy on how to enforce the ethics code? The employees <br />should know. <br /> <br />Mr. Hermes: No. <br /> <br />Mr. Hisashima: Then how do you hold the employees accountable? See that’s the <br />problem. I look at it coming from the State. We write up people on violation of policy. We’re <br />going to make sure we review, sanction them, everything. When it comes to the ethical part, that <br />is sent up to the Ethics for review for their opinion and when we give the opinion then you move <br />forward. I’ve never seen anybody sanction, stop and reverse and take away sanctions. That’s <br />the problem I have. Once you find a person guilty of a charge how are you going to reverse that? <br />See what I’m saying, cause you folks said there is no, Ms. Leithead-Todd said if there is no <br />violation or we come with an opinion that there’s no violation then you got to redo the sanction. <br />I’ve never heard of that before in 26 years of my career. That’s all I wanted to bring up. <br /> <br />Mr. Balsis: Thank you Glen. Ku, do you have anything you’d like say? Any <br />questions or any comments? <br /> <br />Ms. Kahakalau: None. <br /> <br />Mr. Balsis: Thank you. Arne, go ahead. <br /> <br />19 <br /> <br /> <br />