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KANEMOTO: Okay, it’s in my testimony but for an elementary school, minimum enrollment of <br />500 on twelve acres; middle school and intermediate, minimum enrollment of 600 on eighteen <br />acres; and for a high school a minimum of a thousand enrollment, fifty acres. <br /> <br />ONO: Okay. <br /> <br />KANEMOTO: Okay? <br /> <br />ONO: Thank you. <br /> <br />GONZALES: Thank you. Charlie. <br /> <br />HEAUKULANI: Yeah, I actually had a question for both of you gentlemen. Since you both <br />have used the same phrases, I’d like to get an idea, and in fact, the question’s already asked, how <br />do you define community. Our rules don’t talk about community, and I’m not sure that I’m <br />comfortable with even limiting it to South Hilo, but am I correct that both of you gentlemen <br />define community as the immediate, adjacent area? <br /> <br />KANEMOTO: I do, yes. <br /> <br />FUKE: I do also because it’s like--it’s kind of tied in with some of the criteria, you know, the <br />guidelines because it defines community in relation to adjoining property owners as well you <br />know, in terms of the impact. <br /> <br />HEAUKULANI: Agree that our criteria does talk about the effect on surrounding properties— <br /> <br />FUKE: Correct, yeah. <br /> <br />HEAUKULANI: But, what we’re really looking at is whether this is an unusual or reasonable <br />use of land situated in the Agricultural District, not in any one community regardless of how you <br />define it. And, sir, I had a question for you. In referencing the burden of proof, you did not <br />mean to suggest that the community, however that’s defined or the intervenor, had no burden of <br />proof of persuasion in the contested case hearing? <br /> <br />FUKE: No, I did not. <br /> <br />HEAUKULANI: Okay, so you’ll agree that, while the applicant carried the initial burden of <br />proof, that there—once that minimum criteria is reached wherever that is—that opposing views <br />are required to provide at least some burden of proof or burden of persuasion? <br /> <br />FUKE: I don’t know. I’m not an attorney, so I’m just kind of, I won’t be able to answer that <br />question. <br /> <br />HEAUKULANI: I understand, but you or your client did make the argument. I’m just trying to <br />figure out where they’re coming from. I just don’t want you to leave open the idea that only the <br />22 <br />EXHIBIT F <br /> <br /> <br />