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Mr. Balsis: This is among the Board here. <br /> <br />Ms. Kahakalau: The issue with the, the you know, lying had to do with the timing <br />of the, of the, Ms. Kawauchi’s release from the County and <br />therefore being allowed to be, to represent basically and that was <br />all clarified. And so, so we know, we know now that didn’t <br />happen, but Mr. Henkel at that time he didn’t have any of the <br />understanding so he came from the perspective of what he had <br />heard, which was that she was not allowed to represent at that time <br />kind of. And that all has been clarified so I think that’s, I wouldn’t <br />even put that out there anymore as an issue because it was <br />somebody not having all the information and the information came <br />out it’s obvious that, that was not the case. I can see where people <br />came from different perspectives you know like Mr. Adams had <br />said, but I don’t, I don’t see that there was the minutes certainly <br />don’t show us that there was any kind of evidence of what is being <br />stated, yet we can also sympathize and understand that when <br />you’re trying to fight for a certain issue you know that you get <br />personally very involved and also personally very sensitive, but I <br />just don’t see where we have any kind of documentation that you <br />know, that validates the accusation. And that’s kind of a really <br />difficult spot I think. <br /> <br />Mr. Balsis: Mr. Henricks. <br /> <br />Mr. Henricks: Yes the reason I gave that scenario of that point is cause I wanted <br />to show that my view point is that if there’s any irritation or <br />impatience shown by Mr. Henkel it was directed at the situation <br />and not at Ms. Tita as being a discourteous thing toward her, but he <br />was addressing the situation with his impatience and that’s what <br />I’m thinking of at this time. That’s my position. <br /> <br />Mr. Balsis: Do you have any comments? <br /> <br />Mr. Adams: I do and let me just follow up then with what the judge was talking <br />about. I frankly concur with our Vice Chair in total of what she <br />was talking about now so I don’t have to say it. I’ll go back to the <br />ordinance that we’re talking about 2-83(a)(3), all persons shall be <br />treated in a courteous, fair and impartial manner, and so when I go <br />back and I listen to both Ms. Tita and Ms. MacDonald and also Mr. <br />Henkel, to take Ms. MacDonald’s comments specifically it <br />appeared Mr. Henkel’s mind was already made up. Frankly that <br />may have been the case, there’s nothing that indicates, I mean if I <br />take a look at the minutes I would probably concur as well, but that <br />is not treating people in a, that’s not treating them in a non- <br />courteous or impartial manner. That’s he made his mind up as a <br />16 <br /> <br /> <br />