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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes — January 26, 2015 <br />MB: When would we know the likely outcome of that whether they're going to <br />appeal or not? <br />LM: They have thirty days from the judgment and we're waiting for the <br />judgment to be entered. <br />TL: For my own clarification — a judgment is when everybody signs off on <br />things — is that when the judgment becomes final? <br />LM: Not necessarily. It's basically the formal end of the action. So we have the <br />order, which has been signed by Judge Hara — it's very similar to the order <br />— but it's a sign that the entire case is over and until the judgment is <br />entered the court of appeals would not have jurisdiction. <br />TL: And once it's signed off then they have 30 days. <br />LM: Exactly. And they can get an extension from the judge, but usually you <br />people don't need an extension. <br />TL: Do you have any thoughts on this, of your own? <br />LM: I think we have a strong case on appeal. I think a lot — and I think <br />obviously the State probably is worried about that as well and that's why <br />they're pursuing the legislation. Which they probably should have pursued <br />a while ago, but there may be reasons why they didn't, you know, maybe <br />they think it's not likely or maybe difficult to have the legislature approve it. <br />MB: Are we the only county that has a no-fly and shoot ordinance? <br />LM: I assume so just because if there was more than one — they'd probably try <br />and combine all the actions. <br />TS: What is the federal policy and was it in 1972 that the Feds allowed aerial <br />eradication. <br />LM: Yes. Under the — that palila order, right, the consent decree... It's permitted <br />in the palila habitat. Under the federal statutes they have a ban on aerial <br />hunting, except for the federal government, and the states are permitted to <br />exclude themselves as well. <br />MB: Until that time people were shooting bald eagles and things like that on the <br />mainland ... so they banned shooting from aircraft in 1972 except for the <br />feds because they needed to control wolves, coyotes or whatever it was at <br />that time. <br />31 <br />