2015-01-26 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes — January 26, 2015 and clearly there are some rights under there for the DLNR to do that — and they're extending it because they have those management rights — that means that they can do this aerial hunting. KD: So they instead of work with the public — they can decide not to and just say naw we're not going to work with the public — we just gonna take means into our own hands and basically whatever anybody has as far as, you know, the State constitution, as far as gathering rights and what have you — and for feed their family and that's one resource — they out the door because the State says naw, we're not going work with them — we not going give nobody one chance — we just going take `em up. So basically that's the attitude. That's what I'm hearing... LM: Yeah. It sounds like that is the State's attitude but I don't think there's anything illegal about it. There are some statutes that clearly indicate that the department — that DLNR should be working with the public and the groups interested in it — but I don't think that would create a cause of action — if they didn't... KD: Is there any records or files that is stating that they went work with the public and asked them if they could come out and like say give them a year or two to try and see if they could do the hunting instead, instead of just go out and do the determination? LM: No, there's no requirement like that that I've come across. KD: That's what I figured. DY: Do you know when specifically these animals were determined to be invasive? Who determined that? •[7iiii.Tti DY: So some bureaucrat in the DLNR could just say oh we should just call these guys invasive and it becomes invasive? LM: Honestly, I don't know. But at some level these are functions that you do expect the government to do, right, you do expect the government to determine when certain animals become a nuisance or when they need — what management activity should take — should occur, right, so it's not that unusual. I think the frustration is a large part of the community feels excluded and not listened to — that their input is not being heard. TL: That's correct. One thing about — in answer to Kalani's question — if there's federal monies involved in any of these activities — the public has to be included — now whether they're using some other organization to satisfy