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Mr. Balsis: I'd like to just make a personal statement. That is in a previous <br /> life, when I was with the Boys and Girls club we would go to the <br /> State Legislature. Our purpose was to educate them on our <br /> programs not to lobby. I know it's a fine line, but as a non-profit <br /> that's something that we had done in terms of education and <br /> educating legislators of the type of things we do. <br /> Mr. Balsis: Are there any comments on. I look at petition having two parts. <br /> One in terms of dealing with a lobbyist and one being fair <br /> treatment. Are there any comments by anybody on the Board? <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: There are stipulations as a non-profit that you are not allowed to <br /> lobby or only a certain amount of lobbying. There's some pretty <br /> strict provisions that guide the lobbying efforts of non-profits, but I <br /> don't know that we can really figure out here whether that <br /> happened or didn't happen right. So that's kind of what makes it <br /> difficult is that I don't think we have any information in terms of <br /> the, or enough information to make a decision on whether the <br /> lobbying issue is something we can make a decision on. <br /> Mr. Balsis: At this point and time and I'm gonna be asking for concurrence <br /> with the rest of the Board. With regards to the petition in terms of <br /> with respect to the lobbyist. That's something out of our sphere of <br /> control. Apparently, nobody has any jurisdiction over making sure <br /> our lobbyist is registered. <br /> Mr. Adams: I'll let Counsel go ahead. <br /> Ms. Schoen: The lobbyist provision is under the jurisdiction of this Board, so <br /> the Board can look at whether or not an organization or a lobbyist <br /> has in fact registered or not. With respect to this petition though, <br /> it's my understanding that there are allegations regarding a <br /> lobbyist not being registered, but that particular entity is not before <br /> you today. You have a Council Chair before you and in answer to <br /> your previous question, there's no duty placed upon an officer or <br /> employee such as Mr. Kanuha to insure that the lobbyist are <br /> registered. The burden is placed on the lobbyist themselves to <br /> register. So if the Board is looking at whether or not that <br /> organization was in fact registered, I believe that's something to, <br /> you have to bring that organization before this Commission rather <br /> try to do it thru Mr. Kanuha who has no duty or obligation to <br /> insure that they are in fact registered. <br /> Mr. Adams: My comment was essentially going to be what Counsel said. This <br /> is in our wheel house when looking at whether or not there is a <br /> registration of a lobbyist. Our ability to and I agree with Ku, the <br />