2015-05-13 Regular Session Minutes Board of Ethics

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received those gifts and I'm alleging that some of them were illegal. I assuming that will be discovered as part of your ongoing process. Ms. Kahakalau: Thank you. I see the double dipping and failure to report gifts in section F there. Thank you. Mr. Hyland: Okay. Shall I just start then? Mr. Goodenow: Perhaps if I could interject Madame Chair. Mr. Hyland in reading the testimony presented by Mr. Kenoi's attorneys. There is a discussion about the fact that there is a pending criminal investigation. I'm not saying that we're not gonna take action. I think we have to proceed, but if I were to say that given the fact that there is an investigation would you object to deferring this matter pending some sort of outcome in that matter. Would you object to that? That is my question. Mr. Hyland: I would object in the strongest of terms. The reason why I would object in the strongest of terms is may I also ask. I sent again to Emily my response. Mr. Kenoi's attorney did not have professional courtesy to send me a copy of what he submitted to you. On the other hand, Mr. De Lima did have that professional courtesy and I responded to Mr. De Lima's statement which he presented to you. Do you have a copy of my response to his statement. Mr. Goodenow: Is that in your testimony? Mr. Hyland: No. It's a two (2)page response. It's separate from my testimony. Mr. Goodenow: I don't recall. I'm sorry I don't seem to have that. Mr. Hyland: Maybe Emily can say whether she gave it to you or not. Mr. De Lima: I don't have it either. Mr. Goodenow: Mr. De Lima doesn't have it either. While we're looking that if I could ask. Mr. Hyland: Let me finish my statement at least. What I did in my statement to you was finally Mr. De Lima cites the administrative rules of the County of Maui. As thought that means anything to us. That the Board should dismiss charges against Ms. Sako because the matter is under investigation by the Attorney General. With all due