2015-05-13 Regular Session Minutes Board of Ethics

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know when the Board typically makes that query, but it may affect what information becomes public between now and whenever this matter may be brought up again. Mr. Adams: Typically, we would make that query when we receive the petition and it would be made of the subject of the petition not the petitioner with having that particular call. Ms. Kahakalau: At this point, one of the questions we could ask to both Mr. Hyland, Mr. De Lima.and Mr. Luke is if everybody is okay with the release of the information. Mr. Murai: No. Not that specifically, but I guess fundamentally number one as Board member Adams pointed out. Typically, at the first hearing or at upon filing the requestor or respondent is asked whether they wish any hearing to be open or close. Perhaps now might be the time. Mr. Adams: If I could Madame Chair. We have the motion, perhaps is need to... We have a motion that we are considering and discussing even though we're not supposed to be discussing it apparently according to the rules. I can always modify the motion to say deferred as oppose to table. Mr. Mukai: Right. Tabling is a form of art. You're withdrawing your motion... Mr. Adams: Withdrawing the motion and assuming that's okay with the person second. I'm making the motion that I made before with the verb deferred as opposed to the verb table. Ms. Kahakalau: Do we have a second for that? Yes. Thank you. Mr. Goodenow: Second. Mr. Adams: Given that we're in the midst of talking about that. I think that process of determining whether or not we have a closed hearing is something that we could take up assuming for the sake of argument that the motion passes. The discussion about whether it's an open or closed hearing would be something we would take up when we would then take up this petition again. Mr. Murai: Of course that's possible. As I said I'm not familiar with this Board's normal procedure.