2015-09-17 Leeward Exh B (SMA 15-060)

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of the areas of the heiau. There are no trails that walk, or went through there; it was an individual, it was a place that was reserved for the folks who were kahuna and ali‘i. So if you have any questions, please feel free to ask. DCIKSON: Aloha. My name is Ma‘ulili Dickson. I’m related to the people that mālama this area and also the ali‘i of that area. I do come from a kahuna background on my grandmother side. And in respect to that, I am in favor of issuing this SMA Use Permit to Kamehameha Schools. And my strong concern is on the access. Controlled access, I believe in, because this area used to be a kapu area, and I think still remains in that sense a kapu area; it was special only for those that belonged in there. When we use it as an educational facility now, we escort our groups or individuals in there, and we ensure that they are coming into the area with the right frame of mind, with a positive frame of mind and not a negative frame of mind. In the past we have witnessed that people coming into these cultural significant areas with a negative frame of mind have a negative response to it, and then they call upon the practitioners to ‘oki that or to cleanse them of that in the aftermath. We, as practitioners, would rather see us instructing them or educating them prior to their access or during their access so that they do not experience these negative mana from the land and from the ancestors that do exist there and are active in those areas. Some individuals may or may not believe in this concept, but it is active in especially these areas that were kapu in the past and reserved to the ali‘i. So my concern is in the access that it not be just open so that people of the public, individuals or groups can just walk all over the reserved areas. We have burials in those areas that we need to be concerned with, and a couple of areas, like Mr. Kaholo had mentioned, that you need education and you need support before entering into those areas. I would like you to consider that from a cultural standpoint. I am involved with many of the groups that educate in this area and throughout the island. So I ask for your consideration in the manner. Mahalo. UNGER: Mahalo. Mr. Dela Cruz, Mr. Kalawe, Mr. Pai, Mr. Fujisaka. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth before the Planning Commission? TESTIFIERS: Aye. I do. UNGER: Please state your name and where you reside. DELA CRUZ: My name is Ron Makaula Kauaua Dela Cruz. My address is P. O. Box 1357 Kamuela, Hawai‘i. FUJISAKA: My name is Mitchell Mikiala Fujisaka. My address is 75-236 Kailua-Kona, Hawai‘i. PAI: Aloha. My name is Mahealani Pai. I reside in Kona. My address is P. O. Box 251 Kailua-Kona 96740. KALAWE: Aloha. My name is Keone Kalawe. I reside at 14-3289 Pū‘āla‘a Road in Pāhoa, Hawai‘i. DELA CRUZ: Aloha, Commissioners, Mr. Director, Chairman of the Chair. And I kala mai to my brothers and sisters that have to view my back. I am the ali‘i ‘ai moku of Moku O Kohala, Royal Order of Kamehameha. I am here in support of Moku O Kona who has given testimony last month at 11 EXHIBIT B