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<br />DUARTE: For the yellow one down the middle? <br /> <br />SHIMAOKA: Yes. <br /> <br />DUARTE: That will be a managed access, so that one we will have, you know, we’ll be developing <br />this Heritage Center and an operational plan that will have some limits on capacity, obviously, how <br />many you can take at a time. We have not fully developed all the interpretive materials whether it’s <br />going to be audio, visual, and that’s going to be kind of more of, well, on this side here, this is, I <br />don’t want to say traditional, but conventional public access in the sense of public; parking spaces, <br />you go to the beach, you do your thing, you go on the shoreline, and that’s, you know, conventional <br />public access as granted by required in a lot of coastal developments. And, of course, there is public <br />access in the north side at Kahalu‘u Beach Park. This will be a managed access, which include <br />education, interpretation, and allow more engaged conversation in viewing and accessing the site <br />down the middle. And, you know, there would be limitation in the sense of, you know, obviously <br />staying on. These are two key learning areas. This is our overnight Hale Ho‘omaha learning centers <br />and then this is our key learning center here. So having this in the middle was for us a compromise <br />of how we could allow others to come and view and experience the site even if you are not in our <br />programs and be able to experience the heiau and learn but in a more managed way. So it is managed <br />as opposed to this one and of course on the north is just more unrestricted, yeah. So we have both <br />kinds of access on the site. <br /> <br />UNGER: Any more questions? <br /> <br />KAHOLO: Yeah, I’ve got a question. We are looking at this site right here, okay, I don’t see <br />anything showing any kind of agreement of what’s happening on the mauka side, north end. <br /> <br />DUARTE: So when you say mauka, you mean across the street or you mean on the north side. <br /> <br />KAHOLO: North end. From Kahalu‘u Beach Park heading south. <br /> <br />DUARTE: Yeah, so in the Recommendation the Planning Department is requiring us to come to <br />agreement with them on signage and so forth, as we delineate, you know, where public can go, you <br />know, what accesses along this shoreline, and then for those who want to experience the site, I think <br />in preliminary discussions the Planning Director was talking about us having signage and <br />interpretation to direct them to the other public access sites. And those are the things that we need to <br />work out in this, the condition in there to work out the details of how we do that is what the Planning <br />Director is requiring us to do before we can go vertical. <br /> <br />KAHOLO: Thank you. <br /> <br />UNGER: Any other questions, Commissioners? At this time I would like to call for a motion. <br /> <br />SHIMAOKA: Yeah, I move that the application for Special Management Area Use Permit, Docket <br />Number SMA 15-060, be approved pursuant to the Planning Director’s recommendation, findings <br />and proposed conditions, which shall be adopted. <br />28 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />