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Mr. Revell: Yeah you know. I don't know if this you know the award itself is <br /> that a gift? Engraved trophy? You know that look like it's over a <br /> hundred dollars to me, but I could be wrong. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: Thank you and then Mr. Kanuha did you file a gift disclosure for <br /> this amount? <br /> Mr. Kanuha: Yes. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: Having received awards by myself as well, I have to tell you <br /> getting up early in the morning to catch a plane to go to Honolulu, <br /> to get a piece of something that's going to be sitting somewhere <br /> and nobody will ever talk about it or look at it again. I personally <br /> have a hard time looking at that as a gift per say because it takes <br /> more work on my part of flying in, flying out, catching this, going <br /> there takes me away from my real job, takes me away from my <br /> family. And personally as I said, I have a whole bunch of those <br /> and don't know what to do with them. I don't look at that as <br /> anything of monetary value. In that way of flying there and flying <br /> back etc. That's just a personally opinion. I do understand the <br /> perception part of it and that is something that we have to be very <br /> cognoscente of and for sure in the future you know look as a <br /> something that like while it would not been an intentional thing if <br /> the perception is gonna...if there's a possibility of the perception <br /> being there of this being a gift rather than another day away from <br /> my real job and real Kuleana etc. then I will then have to catch up <br /> with on the weekend etc. I think that's something that is an <br /> important learning experience, but as I said personally having done <br /> this I really have a difficult time looking at this when there's no <br /> gain in the end. It's not like he got the five hundred thirty-six <br /> dollars is that those were the expenses that were needed to cover <br /> the travel. <br /> Mr. Revell: Can I reply to that comment? <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: Go ahead. <br /> Mr. Revell: This is my personal feeling. You know I appreciate your <br /> comments on your trophies and you know there useless trinkets is <br /> what they are. My and this is you know...I'm not speaking on <br /> behalf of the public. This is my personal opinion, but when you <br /> join a gang and you have a gang backing you up. Now you have <br /> the support of those members and that gang or that crew, that club <br /> 23 <br />