2015-09-09 Regular Session Minutes

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or non-profit organization. You also get the approval from all their friends, the people that who do business, who work with these non- profit organizations. Now as a political person that has future aspirations, that's a good move. Sure five hundred dollars is nothing,but for personal gain it is something and I feel that you know that's my personal feeling that this is just so unfair because we had the American heart or lung association in here making comments. And the only reason why they're here is because Tobacco Free Hawai`i and them are in the same coffee clutch. And you know this is just unfairness on you know the public because now we're fighting against these corporations, these companies that are funded by big pharmaceuticals companies that don't want e-cigs. They don't want the little guys around here helping people and then the whole health issue can go out the window. The fact is that we're the public, we're wronged. I was wronged as a member of the public and if we're going off of the Ethics Code lets go off of the Ethics Code. And you know that's what I'm here for. Ms. Kahakalau: Thank you. Any further discussion in regards to this. So the motion is on the floor to move Petition No. 2015-10 to an informal hearing. Mr. Goodenow: One comment. You know, I believe there's probably some case law regarding the applicability of the code provisions similar language from other Counties or the State Ethics Code. I'm not I'm wondering if Corporation Counsel... the only reason I'm really inclined to vote no, but I might vote yes because I mean Mr. Adams you read it there, that's what it sounds like. I'm interested in exploring that further, though my gut is telling me this is not a gift kind of quid pro quo situation right. It's exactly as you say, you gotta... It's more trouble then maybe its worth, but I'm willing to vote yes just so we can move on this issue. I don't know that's fair to you Mr. Kanuha being kind of our...as a reason. But that's the only reason I'm voting yes because I don't think there's anything that's been done wrong by this trip except maybe that Tobacco Free Hawai`i didn't report it, we don't know that. So I'm voting yes, but with strong reservations I guess is what I'm saying. Motion and Vote: Mr. Adams moved to take Petition No. 2015-10 and move it into an informal hearing. Only members Adams and Goodenow voted aye. 24