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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes — June 20, 2016 <br />Data is available online - administrative record that was done by the folks <br />who were advocating for this and in the DLNR's Board submittal for the <br />May 27th meeting. <br />Ike: Thank you for coming Chris, I appreciate that, but, you know, <br />characteristically we're again having a lot of comments being made by the <br />community, about the management of a resource or the resources and <br />characteristically we're talking about the process and how the process, <br />well, at one end we're saying that the policy is broken and at the other end <br />we're saying that the process is broken — so, how can we improve that so <br />we don't have this, it seems like we go through a process, you know, we <br />went through Puuwaawaa, for example, and we went through a process, <br />and yet, at the back end — the back end meaning today — you know, we <br />hear criticism of what's going on. How do we take care of that? Because <br />their — you know the criticism is basically there isn't balance — so the <br />resource users — I don't mean the non-active user — a non-active user <br />would be somebody who hikes or goes bird watching or all of that — that is <br />a non-active to me. An active user would be someone who goes in and <br />harvests resources and we keep hearing from the guys who go and <br />harvest resources and it's not working and so there's a lot of frustration <br />and that's what we hear tonight, right, and so I'm always, ah, trying to get <br />to some, some movement forward — some balance and there doesn't <br />seem to be balance and we — here — end up listening to all this, you know, <br />the criticisms and the gripes and we really have no authority to do <br />anything except to advise — what I'm trying to get to is how do we fix it? <br />CY: Well, there are always ways and I could talk about some ways that the <br />process could be better in administrative rule making, but I have to say <br />that some of these things are controversial — some of these things people <br />disagree about and at the end of the day you're in a position in the Board <br />that I'm on, you know, you take vote and you make a decision and if we <br />had voted not to adopt this, a lot of people at that meeting — some people <br />would have been happy — the bulk of the public who was at that meeting <br />would have been unhappy and they would have felt that they hadn't been <br />heard and the process was broken and that they had put all this work into <br />this and nothing had come about from it — so there's no real way of <br />avoiding making people feel unhappy and one thing I want to stress for <br />people is, I listen to people — I do listen to people — I listen to what they <br />have to say — at the end — I might not agree with it — I listen, I heard, I <br />might disagree — I didn't not hear what they had to say — I heard what they <br />had to say but I didn't — maybe I didn't agree, all right? That's the — that <br />was what happened at the end. It's not that I tuned you out, um, ah... <br />[Technical difficulty — Chris Yuen can't hear him] And so with this, with this <br />situation here — when it came up to vote, you know, one side is gonna be <br />unhappy and one side is happy, but it's not that the only one side was <br />heard — what heard — what — that decision was made. <br />13 <br />